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Old October 8th 07, 02:42 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.yarn
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Please help out the poorest of pensioners in this country who are very
very poor and cannot afford to buy decent food and also go without
meals altogether, malnutrition amongst our elderly population costs
the NHS billions every year, a good nutritional diet is very important
for the elderly population, please do your bit and sign this e-
petition, thanks for your help.

Campaigner http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/freshfruitveg/

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Old October 8th 07, 04:03 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.yarn
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On Oct 8, 3:42 pm, Campaigner wrote:
Please help out the poorest of pensioners in this country who are very
very poor and cannot afford to buy decent food and also go without
meals altogether, malnutrition amongst our elderly population costs
the NHS billions every year, a good nutritional diet is very important
for the elderly population, please do your bit and sign this e-
petition, thanks for your help.

Campaignerhttp://petitions.pm.gov.uk/freshfruitveg/


Alas i am not from your country , but here too , elderky people are
not well off ,,,
mirjam

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Old October 9th 07, 10:49 AM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.yarn
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"Campaigner" wrote in message
ups.com...
Please help out the poorest of pensioners in this country who are very
very poor and cannot afford to buy decent food and also go without
meals altogether, malnutrition amongst our elderly population costs
the NHS billions every year, a good nutritional diet is very important
for the elderly population, please do your bit and sign this e-
petition, thanks for your help.

Campaigner http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/freshfruitveg/


a) We're pensioners and live very well and even save because we don't need
to spend all the pension. There's no need for pensioners who can do their
own shopping to suffer from malnutrition.

b) Do you really think that these petitions do any good at all?

Mary


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Old October 9th 07, 03:13 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.yarn
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On Oct 9, 11:49 am, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
"Campaigner" wrote in message

ups.com...

Please help out the poorest of pensioners in this country who are very
very poor and cannot afford to buy decent food and also go without
meals altogether, malnutrition amongst our elderly population costs
the NHS billions every year, a good nutritional diet is very important
for the elderly population, please do your bit and sign this e-
petition, thanks for your help.


Campaignerhttp://petitions.pm.gov.uk/freshfruitveg/


a) We're pensioners and live very well and even save because we don't need
to spend all the pension. There's no need for pensioners who can do their
own shopping to suffer from malnutrition.

b) Do you really think that these petitions do any good at all?

Mary


We have many pensioners who came here from Other countries and were
already old , hence no pension only the small Social Security ,,,

Some petitions help to make people attentive to the problem ,,,, some
don`t
mirjam

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Old October 9th 07, 04:22 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.yarn
Mary Fisher
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wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 9, 11:49 am, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
"Campaigner" wrote in message

ups.com...

Please help out the poorest of pensioners in this country who are very
very poor and cannot afford to buy decent food and also go without
meals altogether, malnutrition amongst our elderly population costs
the NHS billions every year, a good nutritional diet is very important
for the elderly population, please do your bit and sign this e-
petition, thanks for your help.


Campaignerhttp://petitions.pm.gov.uk/freshfruitveg/


a) We're pensioners and live very well and even save because we don't
need
to spend all the pension. There's no need for pensioners who can do their
own shopping to suffer from malnutrition.

b) Do you really think that these petitions do any good at all?

Mary


We have many pensioners who came here from Other countries and were
already old , hence no pension only the small Social Security ,,,


The poster was talking about UK.

Some petitions help to make people attentive to the problem ,,,, some
don`t


And the.gov ones here don't. Even paper ones don't. Even a couple of million
marchers didn't ... :-(

Mary
mirjam



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Old October 11th 07, 03:58 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.yarn
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Default Pensioners e-petition/Please help

"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
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wrote in message
ups.com...
On Oct 9, 11:49 am, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
"Campaigner" wrote in message

ups.com...

Please help out the poorest of pensioners in this country who are very
very poor and cannot afford to buy decent food and also go without
meals altogether, malnutrition amongst our elderly population costs
the NHS billions every year, a good nutritional diet is very important
for the elderly population, please do your bit and sign this e-
petition, thanks for your help.

Campaignerhttp://petitions.pm.gov.uk/freshfruitveg/

a) We're pensioners and live very well and even save because we don't
need
to spend all the pension. There's no need for pensioners who can do
their
own shopping to suffer from malnutrition.

b) Do you really think that these petitions do any good at all?

Mary


We have many pensioners who came here from Other countries and were
already old , hence no pension only the small Social Security ,,,


The poster was talking about UK.


I hadn't realized that the poster was in the UK.

Some petitions help to make people attentive to the problem ,,,, some
don`t


And the.gov ones here don't. Even paper ones don't. Even a couple of
million marchers didn't ... :-(


Still, it's nice to think that the little people might be able to make
*some* kind of difference... or at least try. Maybe if everyone who grew
up in the 60's (Hippies) had stuck with our beliefs about trying to save the
environment, the horrendous effects from Global Warming might not be
happening now. Instead, everyone is panicing now trying to figure out how
to fix the problem. / So even if petitions (for or against *most*
things) might not work in some countries... it can't hurt to at least try,
right?

*hugs*
Gem


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Old October 11th 07, 06:14 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.yarn
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"Not Likely" [email protected] wrote in message
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The poster was talking about UK.


I hadn't realized that the poster was in the UK.

Some petitions help to make people attentive to the problem ,,,, some
don`t


And the.gov ones here don't. Even paper ones don't. Even a couple of
million marchers didn't ... :-(


Actually, one paper petition DID work - the only one which ever has. That
was to protest against re-arming in 1939. When re-arming became vital it was
so late as to cause a lot of wasted time and lives.

Still, it's nice to think that the little people might be able to make
*some* kind of difference... or at least try.


But all that could do would be to make the people who 'sign' feel good, that
they'd done something.

There's a lot in the UK news right now about these 'petitions', it's
recognised that they're worthless.

Maybe if everyone who grew up in the 60's (Hippies) had stuck with our
beliefs about trying to save the environment, the horrendous effects from
Global Warming might not be happening now.


Well, I brought up five children in the 60s and they have stuck with the
values we taught them. It might not achieve more than a drop in the oceon
but it's more than would happen if 60 million people 'signed' these
e-petitions.

Instead, everyone is panicing now trying to figure out how to fix the
problem.


Sadly, not veryone is. Not everyone admits that there's a problem. Some who
do pay lip service to the problem won't do anything about it on 'economi'c
grounds. Most people are selfish and won't change their lives and argue that
they're right.

So even if petitions (for or against *most* things) might not work in some
countries... it can't hurt to at least try, right?


It can't hurt but it's a waste of bandwidth and finger energy.

I really do believe that.

There have been huge marches here against the illegal invasion of Iraq,
against government laws which don't take heed of environmental issues,
against the laws which diminish human activities.

The government's reply?

On the first, that we're lucky to live in a country where we're free to
march.

On the others? Silence.

I don't believe that anyone in the government even looks at the e-petitions,
putting them on their website is a sop to the gullible.

I really do believe that, we're being taken for a ride. They're treating us
like fools and I'm not going to bite their bait.

Big hugs back!

Mary



 




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