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Old April 21st 04, 12:58 PM
Boner the Cat
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Default Diamond belt sanders for polishing glass

can anybody shed any light or hands on experience??

what is best buy for belts??

1" vs. 2" ?

thks
bg


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Old April 21st 04, 01:46 PM
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"Boner the Cat" wrote in message
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can anybody shed any light or hands on experience??

what is best buy for belts??

1" vs. 2" ?

thks
bg


It depends what you are doing with them, 1" is generally for smaller pieces
with more incurve radius, makes getting in the back of the curve easier.
More importantly, if this is your first purchase of these, they do NOT
polish glass, they will give you a very fine surface, depending on
grit/diamond size, but not polished, for that you need a different wheel.
They will definitely take the surface to a point where polishing is easier.


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Old April 21st 04, 04:21 PM
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"Javahut" wrote in message
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"Boner the Cat" wrote in message
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can anybody shed any light or hands on experience??

what is best buy for belts??

1" vs. 2" ?

thks
bg


It depends what you are doing with them, 1" is generally for smaller

pieces
with more incurve radius, makes getting in the back of the curve easier.
More importantly, if this is your first purchase of these, they do NOT
polish glass, they will give you a very fine surface, depending on
grit/diamond size, but not polished, for that you need a different wheel.
They will definitely take the surface to a point where polishing is

easier.


well, you can get to a polish, but it's hard and takes a long time. i use a
3" vertical belt sander with 80, 220, 400, 600, cork to get a pretty good
polish. wish i had a 4" belt sander, but they have a larger footprint that i
don't have room for at the time.

regards,
charlie
cave creek, az


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Old April 22nd 04, 04:41 AM
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Like Java said, it depends on what your doing with it. If a 1 inch works for
your needs, a 2 inch is just more expensive.

Randy Hansen
SC Glass Tech.
Scam Diego, Comi-fornia



"Boner the Cat" wrote in message
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can anybody shed any light or hands on experience??

what is best buy for belts??

1" vs. 2" ?

thks
bg


--
"Poor people have access to the courts in the same sense that Christians

had
access to the lions."

- Judge Earl Johnson Jr.






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Old April 22nd 04, 09:17 PM
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I have a lot of small pieces that are 1 1/4" by 4 1/2" art glass. I use a
lot of spectrum water glass.

but after i cut it looks like cardboard edges after using the finest diamond
wheel and that very gentle of touches.

what can I do??

thks
bg



"Randy" wrote in message
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Like Java said, it depends on what your doing with it. If a 1 inch works

for
your needs, a 2 inch is just more expensive.

Randy Hansen
SC Glass Tech.
Scam Diego, Comi-fornia



"Boner the Cat" wrote in message
. com...
can anybody shed any light or hands on experience??

what is best buy for belts??

1" vs. 2" ?

thks
bg


--
"Poor people have access to the courts in the same sense that Christians

had
access to the lions."

- Judge Earl Johnson Jr.









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Old April 22nd 04, 10:55 PM
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to the bottom, mate!


"Boner the Cat" wrote in message
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I have a lot of small pieces that are 1 1/4" by 4 1/2" art glass. I use a
lot of spectrum water glass.

but after i cut it looks like cardboard edges after using the finest

diamond
wheel and that very gentle of touches.

what can I do??

thks
bg



"Randy" wrote in message
news:C9Hhc.19560$dZ1.9348@fed1read04...
Like Java said, it depends on what your doing with it. If a 1 inch works

for
your needs, a 2 inch is just more expensive.

Randy Hansen
SC Glass Tech.
Scam Diego, Comi-fornia



"Boner the Cat" wrote in message
. com...
can anybody shed any light or hands on experience??

what is best buy for belts??

1" vs. 2" ?

thks
bg


--
"Poor people have access to the courts in the same sense that

Christians
had
access to the lions."

- Judge Earl Johnson Jr.



Now that I know what you need to do,.....
You can fire polish them in a kiln,
you can get a finer grit wheel, or , if I knew what you had for equipment,
point you in a direction that would benefit you. Go do a Google on
"Kingsley North", lapidary outfit in Northern MI that will save you some
money. IF you have a small disc or belt sander you can get a disk or belt
to fit what you have and you can edge the glass with those, you will get a
high semi-matt finish, nearly polished, with varying belts and grits, but to
polish you will need a wool felt disk or pad and cerium oxide or jewelers
rouge. I know of nothing else that will polish, some stuff will get close,
maybe thats all you need.




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Old April 23rd 04, 12:03 AM
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"Boner the Cat" wrote in message
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I have a lot of small pieces that are 1 1/4" by 4 1/2" art glass. I use a
lot of spectrum water glass.

but after i cut it looks like cardboard edges after using the finest

diamond
wheel and that very gentle of touches.

what can I do??

thks
bg


Accept the fact that Spectrum water glass just "does" that. I deal with
that same problem...every day of my life.


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Old April 23rd 04, 12:47 AM
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It sounds like a characteristic of the glass itself. Is it porous and
bubbly? I'm not real familiar with this type of glass.

As you saw in Charles post, you have a series of grit sizes you use to get
your finish finer and finer. Your final step is the cork belt to actually
polish the edge. This is all done with water on the belt. 80 grit is real
rough. I would start with the 220 and work down from there.

As far as the belt width goes, It's all about surface area. The wider your
belt the more edge you can swipe in the same time. This makes your work go
faster on the long edges. So you can achieve the same result with series of
1" belts as 4" , you just put in a lot more elbow grease. You also have to
be more careful working the edges of the belt so as not to gouge your
finish. A wider belt makes that a bit easier. The wider belts will last
longer too if you work them right. Don't use to much force on them.You can
strip the diamond/abrasive/cork right of the belt pushing to hard. Just let
the belt do the work.

Now don't forget to wear your slip resistant safety shoes, eye protection
with side shields, ear plugs, gloves, a hard hat, and have a second person
as a watch out in case you faint or something,.....it could happen.....
Wear a respirator in case you make some dry dust, do not wear a tie, no long
sleeves, no long hair, watches or rings. If you have facial hair, shave it.
You want your OSHA approved respirator to pass the fit test. Make sure
you're certified for belt sander use. Have your MSDS sheets for silica dust
handy, along with your safe operating procedure guide lines for your belt
sander. (you might forget how to use it from when you were certified) You
might consider a back up generator in case of brown outs. Make sure you
have your permits from the air pollution control district first. They have
been known to shut down bakeries for "the smell of baked bread". You don't
dare run that Honda without your permit.

Oh and most important of all , declare what gender you perceive yourself as
today. That's so we know what bathrooms you'll be using.

That's how we do things in Comi-fornia. I Sure hope I didn't miss anything..

Randy Hansen
SC Glass Tech
Scam Diego, Comi-fornia










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Old April 23rd 04, 12:49 PM
Boner the Cat
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the terminator will set you free!!!

thks for the advise. I am going to build a special kiln for fire polishing
"Randy" wrote in message
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It sounds like a characteristic of the glass itself. Is it porous and
bubbly? I'm not real familiar with this type of glass.

As you saw in Charles post, you have a series of grit sizes you use to get
your finish finer and finer. Your final step is the cork belt to actually
polish the edge. This is all done with water on the belt. 80 grit is real
rough. I would start with the 220 and work down from there.

As far as the belt width goes, It's all about surface area. The wider

your
belt the more edge you can swipe in the same time. This makes your work go
faster on the long edges. So you can achieve the same result with series

of
1" belts as 4" , you just put in a lot more elbow grease. You also have

to
be more careful working the edges of the belt so as not to gouge your
finish. A wider belt makes that a bit easier. The wider belts will last
longer too if you work them right. Don't use to much force on them.You can
strip the diamond/abrasive/cork right of the belt pushing to hard. Just

let
the belt do the work.

Now don't forget to wear your slip resistant safety shoes, eye protection
with side shields, ear plugs, gloves, a hard hat, and have a second person
as a watch out in case you faint or something,.....it could happen.....
Wear a respirator in case you make some dry dust, do not wear a tie, no

long
sleeves, no long hair, watches or rings. If you have facial hair, shave

it.
You want your OSHA approved respirator to pass the fit test. Make sure
you're certified for belt sander use. Have your MSDS sheets for silica

dust
handy, along with your safe operating procedure guide lines for your belt
sander. (you might forget how to use it from when you were certified) You
might consider a back up generator in case of brown outs. Make sure you
have your permits from the air pollution control district first. They have
been known to shut down bakeries for "the smell of baked bread". You don't
dare run that Honda without your permit.

Oh and most important of all , declare what gender you perceive yourself

as
today. That's so we know what bathrooms you'll be using.

That's how we do things in Comi-fornia. I Sure hope I didn't miss

anything..

Randy Hansen
SC Glass Tech
Scam Diego, Comi-fornia













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Old April 23rd 04, 10:47 PM
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We sure hope so. The insanity has to stop somewhere.




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