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Old May 29th 06, 03:43 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.sewing
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Hi -

I'm looking for pajama patterns in men's 4x. Can someone point out a
source to me?

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Old May 29th 06, 09:15 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.sewing
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"BookWight" wrote in message
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Hi -

I'm looking for pajama patterns in men's 4x. Can someone point out
a
source to me?


KwikSew has men's pajamas in XXL, it would not be too difficult to
grade them up two sizes.

http://www.kwiksew.com/

McCalls also carries men's PJs in XXL
http://www.mccallpattern.com/item/M4...niforms&page=1

You might also be able to find 4X patterns for "scrubs", which would
work for PJs.

HTH,

Beverly


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Old May 29th 06, 10:53 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.sewing
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Wandering along the edges of rec.crafts.textiles.sewing, I found the
following bit of electronic flotsam written by "BEI Design"
in
:

KwikSew has men's pajamas in XXL, it would not be too difficult to
grade them up two sizes.

http://www.kwiksew.com/

McCalls also carries men's PJs in XXL
http://www.mccallpattern.com/item/M4...n_uniforms&pag
e=1

You might also be able to find 4X patterns for "scrubs", which would
work for PJs.


Could you please point me to instructions on the web for "grading" a
pattern up? I have to admit being new to sewing.
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Old May 29th 06, 11:26 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.sewing
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BookWight wrote:

Could you please point me to instructions on the web for
"grading" a pattern up? I have to admit being new to sewing.


I found this:
http://www.taunton.com/threads/pages/t00018.asp

that's not entirely clear, though.

If you buy a multi-size pattern, you'll see several cutting lines at
the edge of each pattern piece. In order to grade *up* from the
largest size, you have to add an additional 1/4" (or more) *for each
additional size* at each of the places where the lines diverge. I
know this isn't very clear, and I don't think pattern grading is a
good project for a beginner. Maybe you can find an experienced sewist
in your area to give you some hands on assistance?

Or, buy two patterns and use the second one to add size by overlapping
the pieces, moving the second pieces outside the original XX lines?
I'm not at all sure if that would work well, though.

Beverly


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Old May 30th 06, 10:42 AM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.sewing
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If you buy a multi-size pattern, you'll see several cutting lines at
the edge of each pattern piece. In order to grade *up* from the
largest size, you have to add an additional 1/4" (or more) *for each
additional size* at each of the places where the lines diverge. I


The problem with this is the standard grading scheme gets really squirrelly
when pushed well into the plus size range -- the assumptions made are that
shoulders get longer (hah!), necks get huge, etc. My guess is that only
girth changes are really needed on 2x -4x pj patterns, so you could use
the "moving seamline method" to swing the armscye out at the side seams
and add to the side seams, and then split the pants at the grainlines and
add there. You may also need to change the crotch curve.

But let's start with a slightly different question: what is the chest,
waist and hip measurement of the individual who needs the pjs? Pattern
sizes are not the same as RTW sizes (and a RTW size of one maker isn't the
same as the RTW size of another maker), so you need to pick patterns by the
measurement tables given in the catalogs. Simplicity used to have the
largest men's patterns available, and imho, they weren't very good. Don't
know what their current offerings are like. KwikSew had some of the best
large men's patterns, but I think they stop at a 52" chest. Connie Crawford
has the largest patterns out there, and I think the nursing scrubs could
be remodeled successfully into men's pjs, though they are nominally a women's
pattern:
http://www.fashionpatterns.com/patte...ses_u8101.html

There are some computerized pattern drafting programs out there -- Click and
Sew might be an entry level, though I have not used it (I drape or draft my
own patterns.)

Can you show us the style of pjs you're looking for? Maybe we can make
some better suggestions, then.

Kay

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Old May 30th 06, 06:41 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.sewing
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Wandering along the edges of rec.crafts.textiles.sewing, I found the
following bit of electronic flotsam written by "BEI Design"
in
:

You might also be able to find 4X patterns for "scrubs", which would
work for PJs.


Yes, I did find a 4x scrubs pattern, thank you!
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Old May 30th 06, 07:56 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.sewing
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BookWight wrote:
Wandering along the edges of rec.crafts.textiles.sewing, I found
the following bit of electronic flotsam written by "BEI Design"
in
:

You might also be able to find 4X patterns for "scrubs", which
would work for PJs.


Yes, I did find a 4x scrubs pattern, thank you!


You're welcome! I really think working with a pattern of the correct
size will be your best bet. BTW, Kay asked, and I failed to: you are
going by *actual measurement*, aren't you? You *cannot* use
ready-to-wear "sizing" for buying a pattern.

Beverly


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Old May 30th 06, 08:02 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.sewing
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Kay Lancaster wrote:
If you buy a multi-size pattern, you'll see several cutting
lines at
the edge of each pattern piece. In order to grade *up* from
the
largest size, you have to add an additional 1/4" (or more)
*for each additional size* at each of the places where the
lines diverge. I


The problem with this is the standard grading scheme gets really
squirrelly when pushed well into the plus size range -- the
assumptions made are that shoulders get longer (hah!), necks get
huge, etc. My guess is that only girth changes are really
needed on 2x -4x pj patterns, so you could use
the "moving seamline method" to swing the armscye out at the
side seams
and add to the side seams, and then split the pants at the
grainlines and add there. You may also need to change the
crotch curve.

But let's start with a slightly different question: what is the
chest,
waist and hip measurement of the individual who needs the pjs?
Pattern sizes are not the same as RTW sizes (and a RTW size of
one maker isn't the same as the RTW size of another maker), so
you need to pick patterns by the measurement tables given in the
catalogs. Simplicity used to have the largest men's patterns
available, and imho, they weren't very good. Don't know what
their current offerings are like. KwikSew had some of the best
large men's patterns, but I think they stop at a 52" chest.
Connie Crawford has the largest patterns out there, and I think
the nursing scrubs could
be remodeled successfully into men's pjs, though they are
nominally a women's pattern:
http://www.fashionpatterns.com/patte...ses_u8101.html

There are some computerized pattern drafting programs out there
-- Click and Sew might be an entry level, though I have not used
it (I drape or draft my own patterns.)

Can you show us the style of pjs you're looking for? Maybe we
can make
some better suggestions, then.


Kay, I agree, adding at *all* the seams would not be the best
technique. However, OP stated that he/she is "new to sewing", and I
was trying to offer a solution for a limited skill level. I really
think pattern grading is more of an advanced process. Since I did not
locate any XXXX patterns, I thought maybe the duplicate pattern idea
might work. It appears he/she did locate a scrubs pattern, though.

Beverly


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Old May 31st 06, 12:42 AM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.sewing
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Default Looking for pajama patterns in 4xl (men's)

Wandering along the edges of rec.crafts.textiles.sewing, I found the
following bit of electronic flotsam written by "BEI Design"
in
:

You're welcome! I really think working with a pattern of the correct
size will be your best bet. BTW, Kay asked, and I failed to: you are
going by *actual measurement*, aren't you? You *cannot* use
ready-to-wear "sizing" for buying a pattern.


I'm working on getting one of those sewing measuring tapes; I don't think
my Stanley LeverLock is up to this
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Old May 31st 06, 12:42 AM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.sewing
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Default Looking for pajama patterns in 4xl (men's)

Wandering along the edges of rec.crafts.textiles.sewing, I found the
following bit of electronic flotsam written by Kay Lancaster
in :

If you buy a multi-size pattern, you'll see several cutting lines at
the edge of each pattern piece. In order to grade *up* from the
largest size, you have to add an additional 1/4" (or more) *for each
additional size* at each of the places where the lines diverge. I


The other poster did give me the idea of looking for scrubs; I have, in
fact, found a pattern for 'scrubs' in 4XL.

My guess is that only girth changes are really needed on 2x
-4x pj patterns, so you could use the "moving seamline method" to
swing the armscye out at the side seams


Pardon if I ask for a definition . . . . "armscye"?

But let's start with a slightly different question: what is the chest,
waist and hip measurement of the individual who needs the pjs?


Hmmm . . . got to get me one of them flexible measuring tapes. Let me
get back to you on that one . . . .

(and a RTW size of one maker isn't the same as the RTW size of another
maker)


Yes, I've found that out already

Can you show us the style of pjs you're looking for? Maybe we can
make some better suggestions, then.


I bought some 2x men's pj bottoms from Iris Silks - they were definitely
too small; I could get them on, but the elastic waist was stretched out
just about to its limit and I poped some stitches when I sat down.

I now have a pair of 3x pajamas from Mystic Clothing:
http://stores.channeladvisor.com/mysticclothing/Men's%20Sleepwear/

unfortunately, I bought the white/cream SLP25 style, which I find they
will not be restocking. If you'll observe the measurements for the SLP25
style versus the SLP52 style on the web page cited above, you'll see the
chest measurement goes up a couple of inches, while the waist goes
*down*, plus a 3 inch increase in the length. I e-mailed the store,
pointing out that this seemed more like a 3xl tall, but all they did was
thank me politely for my comments.

The cream SLP25's I have now - the bottoms fit pretty well, although a
bit snug in the upper thigh, and perhaps just a tad bit longer than I'd
like my proposed pj's to turn out in the end; overall, I'm satisfied with
the bottoms, been wearing them for almost a week, now. The top in this
style - well, I can get it buttoned up, but it bulges out between the
buttons. Fit across the shoulders is fair, but could use a bit more room,
I think.

It may be that for all practical purposes, I have am a 3x from the waist
up, and a 4x from the waist down . . . .
























 




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