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  #11  
Old January 9th 04, 04:39 PM
mondaymorning
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And I will say openly and with pride that I wouldn't have anything to do
with the ACLU. Investigate them for yourself.

"Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message
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Excuse me waht is
ACLU ? mirjam
never heard this , nore read this ,.
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 23:49:01 GMT, animaux wrote:

Okay, before I take the test I will say openly and with pride that, I am

a full
fledged, card carrying member of the ACLU and firmly on the left side of

the
aisle, as well as being liberal.

Let's see where the test puts me.

V


On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:06:41 -0600, Dianne Lewandowski
opined:

A few months back, someone posted a site with a test to see where you
were at on the political scale: right or left.

The following site does this a little better, has some interesting
statements to make about social and economic "visions", past and current
global leaders and where they are in the spector.

For those interested in this issue, take the test and read the
documentation. I found it fascinating. The questions intriguing, and
often times difficult to answer.

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/poli...ass/index.html





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  #12  
Old January 9th 04, 05:21 PM
Cheryl Isaak
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I might admire the strength of their convictions, but not the subject there
of!
Cheryl

On 1/9/04 10:39 AM, in article
, "mondaymorning"
wrote:

And I will say openly and with pride that I wouldn't have anything to do
with the ACLU. Investigate them for yourself.

"Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message
...
Excuse me waht is
ACLU ? mirjam
never heard this , nore read this ,.
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 23:49:01 GMT, animaux wrote:

Okay, before I take the test I will say openly and with pride that, I am

a full
fledged, card carrying member of the ACLU and firmly on the left side of

the
aisle, as well as being liberal.

Let's see where the test puts me.

V


On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:06:41 -0600, Dianne Lewandowski
opined:

A few months back, someone posted a site with a test to see where you
were at on the political scale: right or left.

The following site does this a little better, has some interesting
statements to make about social and economic "visions", past and current
global leaders and where they are in the spector.

For those interested in this issue, take the test and read the
documentation. I found it fascinating. The questions intriguing, and
often times difficult to answer.

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/poli...ass/index.html





  #13  
Old January 9th 04, 05:22 PM
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
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Excuse me waht is
ACLU ? mirjam
never heard this , nore read this ,.
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 23:49:01 GMT, animaux wrote:

Okay, before I take the test I will say openly and with pride that, I am a full
fledged, card carrying member of the ACLU and firmly on the left side of the
aisle, as well as being liberal.

Let's see where the test puts me.

V


On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:06:41 -0600, Dianne Lewandowski
opined:

A few months back, someone posted a site with a test to see where you
were at on the political scale: right or left.

The following site does this a little better, has some interesting
statements to make about social and economic "visions", past and current
global leaders and where they are in the spector.

For those interested in this issue, take the test and read the
documentation. I found it fascinating. The questions intriguing, and
often times difficult to answer.

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/poli...ass/index.html



  #14  
Old January 9th 04, 05:35 PM
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
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Do you really believe that any test , on political isues , or even
political placing , can be tottaly Objective??? several of my friends
who are Statisticans , or socilogical experts, showed me , several
times how questionaires can be manoeuvred. It all depends of how
Excatly the questions are phrased. Any way i stil wonder , out of
curiousity , why one needs a questionaire toi knowc where one stands
politicly??? and who is to decide what is considered left ? or right ?
or central, and last but not lleast , if you didn`t know which side
you were politicly how did you vote ??? Aren`t you supposed to read
ask and ponder in your conscience about such matters, And is a
probably at least partly `planned to influence` your opinions test`
really what you need ? or do you take such tests instead of really
trying to understand , your government or your chosen party , plans to
do . On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 16:49:15 -0600, Dianne Lewandowski
wrote:


But I don't know how you found this slanted . . . since you could answer
either way. The questions seemed to me well rounded: from religion to
economics to race to gays to child rearing. I'm mean, if you're a
roaring right, left, libertarian or (forgot the other one) - your
answers would indicate that, wouldn't they? I mean, Hussein wouldn't
answer the questions the same way??? Or am I missing what you're
getting at?

On another test I took that someone posted, I was a centrist. I shore
wasn't on this one. g

Which should warn you to the possibility that they are planed to
influence your vote if not your opinions ,

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Old January 9th 04, 06:03 PM
Dukkum
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Actually, homemaker and mother go hand in hand. You can't do one
without the other.


Sure you can.

My younger daughter is a full time homemaker, and has no children.

Jere
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Old January 9th 04, 07:44 PM
Nancy Scott
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"mondaymorning" wrote in message
om...
I went to the site and took the test. I felt that the some of the

questions
were not worded in a way that answers could be given correctly. One

example
was: Mothers may have careers but their first duty is to be homemakers.

One
was to answer agree or disagree. I don't think anyone's first duty is to

be
a homemaker but I sure do think anyone who is a Mother has a duty to put
that job first. Being a homemaker and a Mother are not the same thing.

There were many other questions which presented the same dilemma.
So I got fixed in a position....but was it accurate? I don't think so.


"Dianne Lewandowski" wrote in message
...
A few months back, someone posted a site with a test to see where you
were at on the political scale: right or left.

The following site does this a little better, has some interesting
statements to make about social and economic "visions", past and current
global leaders and where they are in the spector.

For those interested in this issue, take the test and read the
documentation. I found it fascinating. The questions intriguing, and
often times difficult to answer.

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/poli...ass/index.html



It seemed to have a lot of questions that were stated in such a way to
"push" the answerer left/anti-authoritarian. I would love to have my old
poli-sci statistics professor go through the questions and do a bias
analysis. It would be very interesting. Given th politician that it placed
my answers closest to (Gerhart Schroeder), I hope it wasn't accurate.


  #17  
Old January 9th 04, 08:07 PM
Meredith
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The structure of a questionnaire/test definitely has an effect upon the
results. I'm in grad school right now and have studied this in at least
two classes. If you want to see more divided results, you don't give a
neutral answer choice. Having the positive or negative choice first in
the list also makes a difference, as does the order of questions. A
general rule of thumb is to put the questions that people are least
likely to answer at the end of the questionnaire because they tend to
stop upon encountering such a question, and so on.

As Mirjam said, "Do you really believe that any test , on political
isues , or even political placing , can be tottaly Objective???"
It's impossible to write one that's completely unbiased.

Meredith

mondaymorning wrote:
I went to the site and took the test. I felt that the some of the questions
were not worded in a way that answers could be given correctly. One example
was: Mothers may have careers but their first duty is to be homemakers. One
was to answer agree or disagree. I don't think anyone's first duty is to be
a homemaker but I sure do think anyone who is a Mother has a duty to put
that job first. Being a homemaker and a Mother are not the same thing.

There were many other questions which presented the same dilemma.
So I got fixed in a position....but was it accurate? I don't think so.


"Dianne Lewandowski" wrote in message
...

A few months back, someone posted a site with a test to see where you
were at on the political scale: right or left.

The following site does this a little better, has some interesting
statements to make about social and economic "visions", past and current
global leaders and where they are in the spector.

For those interested in this issue, take the test and read the
documentation. I found it fascinating. The questions intriguing, and
often times difficult to answer.

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/poli...ass/index.html





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Old January 9th 04, 09:37 PM
Dianne Lewandowski
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Well, the questions were succinct, weren't they? Both my husband and I
had trouble with several of the questions. I stood before this
question, with the word "homemaker" and pondered it for a very long
time. Perhaps we don't HAVE a current word? And perhaps the collective
you are redefining it by rejecting what it used to stand for. Or
splitting hairs about the definition. I'm not accusing you of this,
just commiserating about why the question was phrased this way. It
really, really made you think long and hard. But if you stop to think
of it, this country (U.S.) is fractured about this issue. So perhaps it
was worded just right. g
Dianne

mondaymorning wrote:

I don't hate the word "homemaker" at all. I just don't see it the way you
do. My belief is that you may or may not be in the business world and still
be or not be a good mother or homemaker. Homemaker to me implies taking
care of a home. Mother is taking care of child. I see people who are
terrible homemakers but wonderful Mothers and also terrible Mothers but
wonderful homemakers. Everyone is a homemaker in some form unless they are
fortunate enough to be waited on hand and foot.

My problem with the question was that for me, it was two questions in one
which would have been answered differently. I answered it by disregarding
the second part of the question.




I went back to the site after Cheryl's post and did some digging. If
you read the "FAQ's" page, most of this is answered.

Actually, homemaker and mother go hand in hand. You can't do one
without the other. It's the word you hate? Yes, you can put the kid in
day care, hire a housekeeper, see the child between work and bedtime,
and still be a mother and care about your child. But the question made
you stop and think. The FAQ page answers some of this.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but either you think children come first
above all else and you stay with them (homemaker) or you slightly agree,
or slightly disagree or strongly favor one side or the other. If you
are being forced to work because of economic times, that won't change
your opinion on how you feel it SHOULD be done. Feminists are equating
work with freedom, and in my personal opinion, that's rather upside down
thinking.

I'm going back there today to read a few other pages which I just
glossed over yesterday. As the site says: this will get dialogue
going, which is so important. I was SHOCKED to see Dean just to the
left of Bush. Who fared as a libertarian-left? Kucinich! I'll have to
dig further. grin
Dianne

mondaymorning wrote:

I went to the site and took the test. I felt that the some of the


questions

were not worded in a way that answers could be given correctly. One


example

was: Mothers may have careers but their first duty is to be homemakers.


One

was to answer agree or disagree. I don't think anyone's first duty is


to be

a homemaker but I sure do think anyone who is a Mother has a duty to put
that job first. Being a homemaker and a Mother are not the same thing.

There were many other questions which presented the same dilemma.
So I got fixed in a position....but was it accurate? I don't think so.


"Dianne Lewandowski" wrote in message
...


A few months back, someone posted a site with a test to see where you
were at on the political scale: right or left.

The following site does this a little better, has some interesting
statements to make about social and economic "visions", past and current
global leaders and where they are in the spector.

For those interested in this issue, take the test and read the
documentation. I found it fascinating. The questions intriguing, and
often times difficult to answer.

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/poli...ass/index.html







  #19  
Old January 9th 04, 09:42 PM
Dianne Lewandowski
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You might not feel that way if you were forced by a perspective employer
to urinate in front of someone in order to get a job. When the
perspective employer (hospital) wouldn't allow a blood test that is more
accurate, even if the perspective employee was willing to pay for it.

It's always easy to dislike something when you don't personally need it.
The ACLU took our case. We dropped it because of a forced 300-mile
move in order to eat and have a roof over our head. Changes were
eventually made in the law. However, under certain vague circumstances,
you can STILL be forced.
Dianne

mondaymorning wrote:

And I will say openly and with pride that I wouldn't have anything to do
with the ACLU. Investigate them for yourself.

"Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message
...

Excuse me waht is
ACLU ? mirjam
never heard this , nore read this ,.
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 23:49:01 GMT, animaux wrote:


Okay, before I take the test I will say openly and with pride that, I am


a full

fledged, card carrying member of the ACLU and firmly on the left side of


the

aisle, as well as being liberal.

Let's see where the test puts me.

V


On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:06:41 -0600, Dianne Lewandowski
opined:


A few months back, someone posted a site with a test to see where you
were at on the political scale: right or left.

The following site does this a little better, has some interesting
statements to make about social and economic "visions", past and current
global leaders and where they are in the spector.

For those interested in this issue, take the test and read the
documentation. I found it fascinating. The questions intriguing, and
often times difficult to answer.

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/poli...ass/index.html




  #20  
Old January 9th 04, 09:43 PM
Dianne Lewandowski
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I stand humbly corrected. g There goes my bias. I thought the
question included chldren in the mix. Another point of view. Glad you
posted!
Dianne

Dukkum wrote:

Actually, homemaker and mother go hand in hand. You can't do one
without the other.



Sure you can.

My younger daughter is a full time homemaker, and has no children.

Jere


 




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