way OT - immigration sponsorship

"Queen of Squishies" RisingStars @ KarenTucker.com wrote in message
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We are co-sponsors for our daughter-in-law, who is from Hungary. She has
her green card and all of course, and then my son went back to school. He
was no longer earning enough to be her sole sponsor, so we signed to
co-sponsor with him. That was several years ago. They have now been
separated for 2 1/2 years, and he is in the process of getting a divorce.
She emailed and told us that if he does, we will be the sole sponsors.
Can
anyone verify if this is true? It doesn't make sense to me that this is
how
it would work, but it is SO hard to find out the details of things like
this. I thought I'd see if anyone here knows about these things. TIA!


Oh boy, what a mess! Sponsorship is a legal bear-trap. There is no get out
of jail free card. I was asked to sign a sponsorship agreement once, for a
prospective employee. The binding aspect dissuaded me, especially combined
with the fact that the SPONSOR IS RESPONSIBLE for reimbursing the cost of
any public benefit used. As far as I understood it, that extended even to
disability or workman's comp. I shudder to think what would have happened if
we had, and he just decided to not come to work. Whether unemployment or
welfare, it all would have been on my dime. My personal dime.

The document is binding until the immigrant naturalizes, has worked 40
quarters (TEN YEARS!), departs the US permanantly, or dies.

See http://immigration.about.com/library/blaffsupp.htm

As for your daughter-in-law's statement that you and hubby will now be soley
responsible, no, that is not true. Your son's obligation WILL NOT END if he
divorces her. So long as she requires a sponsor, anyone who signed that
document IS PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for ensuring that she does not end up
costing the taxpayers money.

An example is given at this link
http://immigration.about.com/od/usgr.../g/affsupp.htm

That's what I thought, thanks! It just didn't make sense to me that the
divorce would change things for him, but not us. We're okay then.

Karen, Queen of Squishies


The document is binding until the immigrant naturalizes, has worked 40
quarters (TEN YEARS!), departs the US permanantly, or dies.

See http://immigration.about.com/library/blaffsupp.htm

As for your daughter-in-law's statement that you and hubby will now be
soley
responsible, no, that is not true. Your son's obligation WILL NOT END if
he
divorces her. So long as she requires a sponsor, anyone who signed that
document IS PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for ensuring that she does not end up
costing the taxpayers money.

An example is given at this link
http://immigration.about.com/od/usgr.../g/affsupp.htm

should his divorce attorney have addressed this with him?
Taria

Karen, Queen of Squishies wrote:
That's what I thought, thanks! It just didn't make sense to me that the
divorce would change things for him, but not us. We're okay then.

Karen, Queen of Squishies


The document is binding until the immigrant naturalizes, has worked 40
quarters (TEN YEARS!), departs the US permanantly, or dies.

See http://immigration.about.com/library/blaffsupp.htm

As for your daughter-in-law's statement that you and hubby will now be

soley

responsible, no, that is not true. Your son's obligation WILL NOT END if

he

divorces her. So long as she requires a sponsor, anyone who signed that
document IS PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for ensuring that she does not end up
costing the taxpayers money.

An example is given at this link
http://immigration.about.com/od/usgr.../g/affsupp.htm

I think she wantedus to worry about it enough to try and talk him out of the
divorce. She still wants him to come back to her after all this time.
Well, sorry. He is 30 years old and does what he wants.

Karen, Queen of Squishies

Like others, I don't know but I would be finding out especially since she
emailed you. Sounds like she may be planning on making you pay for your
son
divorcing her.

--
Mary

Probably not. He's using a lawyer as little as possible. In our state, you
can get a divorce after 2 years, without the other person's consent. He
working his way through the paperwork, etc. It's just a matter of time
until it is a done deal.

Karen, Queen of Squishies

should his divorce attorney have addressed this with him?
Taria

Lisa C wrote:
"Hanne Gottliebsen" wrote in message
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Queen of Squishies wrote:
We are co-sponsors for our daughter-in-law, who is from Hungary. She has
her green card and all of course, and then my son went back to school.
He
was no longer earning enough to be her sole sponsor, so we signed to
co-sponsor with him. That was several years ago. They have now been
separated for 2 1/2 years, and he is in the process of getting a divorce.
She emailed and told us that if he does, we will be the sole sponsors.
Can
anyone verify if this is true? It doesn't make sense to me that this is
how
it would work, but it is SO hard to find out the details of things like
this. I thought I'd see if anyone here knows about these things. TIA!

Karen, Queen of Squishies

Karen,

I don't know enough of this either, but I do occasionally hang out in

alt.visa.us.marriage-based

You might get help there too.

However, if she has had her greencard (by virtue of marriage to your son)
for more then 2 years, I believe she could apply for "removal of
conditions" and then she would not need a sponsor. In fact, I'm wondering
why she didn't do that already.

Not sure if she *could* but I do know there is no incentive for her to do
so. The sponsorship agreement in essence binds the sponsors to support the
immigrant.

I thought that if you get a green card by marriage this is only valid if
you are married to that spouse, otherwise you need to remove conditions
(which refer not only to having financial sponsorship) to keep the green
card?

Oh, well - I hope Karen is getting good advice elsewhere too :-)


But do go look in the other group - most of the folks there are friendly
and know some stuff - even if the advise in the end may be to get a
lawyer, it is sometimes nice to have an idea of what is going on.


Hanne in London


Hanne in London

what I dont understand is why does your son is no longer responsible
after divorcing her
must be a way to ensure people dont get married for the green card
I dont know much about this because I am getting mine under a special
category called national interest waiver because of my work but it
reminds me of that movie with gerard depardieu and the inspectors coming
to the house to make sure they were really together and asking all those
questions that I wouldnt know how to answer after ten years of marriage...

Queen of Squishies wrote:

I understand we have no choice, it was clearly understood when we signed the
paper that this is a binding agreement. I suppose we could renounce her and
send her back home, but we don't want to get that drastic. There's no need
at this point. Thanks, Pat.

Karen, Queen of Squishies


--
Dr. Quilter
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(take the dog out for a walk)

i am not sure about the ten year thing.. I have been in the US legally
for ten and that doesnt guarantee anything...

Phyllis Nilsson wrote:

I know absolutely nothing about this, but if she has been here for five
years has she applied for citizenship? .... If she has lived here for at least five
years, she could apply for citizenship and I believe that would
forestall deportation.


--
Dr. Quilter
http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali
(take the dog out for a walk)

No, I have discovered that she wasn't telling the truth. My son is still a
co-sponsor no matter if they divorce or not. She was trying to scare us
into talking him out of the divorce. Didn't work.

Karen, Queen of Squishies


what I dont understand is why does your son is no longer responsible
after divorcing her
must be a way to ensure people dont get married for the green card
I dont know much about this because I am getting mine under a special
category called national interest waiver because of my work but it
reminds me of that movie with gerard depardieu and the inspectors coming
to the house to make sure they were really together and asking all those
questions that I wouldnt know how to answer after ten years of marriage...
--
Dr. Quilter
http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali
(take the dog out for a walk)

makes sense now. sorry about the horrible syntaxis, I rewrote the first
sentence but left too many of the old bits... btw, you will find that
most of the INS (currently USCIS) employees are very nice and will help
you if you have the patience to wait after you call the 1800 number.
I've done it a lot in the last few years and if you are polite they are
usually very good about finding you the information you need (if they
don't know they'll transfer you to someone that does). I am almost done
with our application, btw, just went to the Dept. of Homeland Security
to have our 'biometrics' taken - read photo, fingerprints and a
signature with one of those electronic thingies that doesn't look at all
like the one I make with a regular pen - took 2 hours though...

Karen, Queen of Squishies wrote:

No, I have discovered that she wasn't telling the truth. My son is still a
co-sponsor no matter if they divorce or not. She was trying to scare us
into talking him out of the divorce. Didn't work.

Karen, Queen of Squishies



what I dont understand is why does your son is no longer responsible
after divorcing her
must be a way to ensure people dont get married for the green card
I dont know much about this because I am getting mine under a special
category called national interest waiver because of my work but it
reminds me of that movie with gerard depardieu and the inspectors coming
to the house to make sure they were really together and asking all those
questions that I wouldnt know how to answer after ten years of marriage...
--
Dr. Quilter
http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali
(take the dog out for a walk)




--
Dr. Quilter
http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali
(take the dog out for a walk)