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Old February 22nd 07, 08:40 AM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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I'm looking for a reputable jewelry dealer that lists stone
characteristics such as color and clarity. My wife wants a pair of
diamond studs (set in either silver, white gold or platinum) for her
40th birthday. The wife doesn't care if they are man made diamonds
(not simulants) or come from the DeBeers monopoly, or if I need to buy
the stones separately and have them set. My budget is around $400 (so
she's getting some small-ass studs probably set in white gold ).

Thanks for any recommendations.


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Old February 22nd 07, 04:34 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:40:03 GMT, "robr" wrote:

I'm looking for a reputable jewelry dealer that lists stone
characteristics such as color and clarity. My wife wants a pair of
diamond studs (set in either silver, white gold or platinum) for her
40th birthday. The wife doesn't care if they are man made diamonds
(not simulants) or come from the DeBeers monopoly, or if I need to buy
the stones separately and have them set. My budget is around $400 (so
she's getting some small-ass studs probably set in white gold ).


There are probably a million places online. FWIW, I have bought from
this outfit in the past and have been satisfied. Here is an example
well within your budget:
http://www.diamondsafe.com/diamond-e...=9502&setID=24

I have zero commercial interest in these places: I don't "do"
diamonds, myself.

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Old February 22nd 07, 04:34 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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robr wrote:
I'm looking for a reputable jewelry dealer that lists stone
characteristics such as color and clarity. My wife wants a pair of
diamond studs (set in either silver, white gold or platinum) for her
40th birthday. The wife doesn't care if they are man made diamonds
(not simulants) or come from the DeBeers monopoly, or if I need to buy
the stones separately and have them set. My budget is around $400 (so
she's getting some small-ass studs probably set in white gold ).

Thanks for any recommendations.



With a budget like that, you're better off going to the local corner
jewelry store.

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Old February 22nd 07, 04:34 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:40:03 GMT in rec.crafts.jewelry "robr"
, intended to write something intelligible, but
instead wrote :

I'm looking for a reputable jewelry dealer that lists stone
characteristics such as color and clarity. My wife wants a pair of
diamond studs (set in either silver, white gold or platinum) for her
40th birthday. The wife doesn't care if they are man made diamonds
(not simulants) or come from the DeBeers monopoly, or if I need to buy
the stones separately and have them set. My budget is around $400 (so
she's getting some small-ass studs probably set in white gold ).

Thanks for any recommendations.


Stuller.com

Of course you need an account.

It's been my experience that a buyer looking on the 'net for diamonds
is hoping to get a better deal than he would going to his local
jeweler.
But you're really doing yourself a disservice by not dealing with
somebody local.
I sell diamonds, but this is not the totality of my business. And I'll
often cut a walk-in customer a deal on a diamond in the hopes of
getting a new customer who will buy all his jewelry from me.

This can be such a cut-throat business that we jewelers *must* court
our customers and do everything in our power to hold on to the ones
we've already got and hope that they will tell all their friends about
that great jeweler up the road.

I usually tell potential customers (and I *know* this'll **** off the
jewelers reading here) that your diamond purchase is NOT an
investment!
Wanna invest in diamonds? Educate yourself and fly over to S. Africa
or Antwerp and buy a few hundred carets of rough...
What you are buying is a symbol of your love and commitment to your
future (or present) wife.
Personally I bought my future wife a house and it wasn't until 18
years into our marriage that I bought her a diamond.
I tell young couples just starting out to get a pretty-to-them,
sparkly diamond of about a quarter caret, maybe an I2, h-j color and
drop it into a simple 18k and with platinum head standard engagement
ring, and save their money for housing and diapers.
If your wife-to-be DEMANDS a one caret D flawless diamond, picking a
diamond is the least of your troubles! You might as well just sign all
your assets over to her now and cut out the middleman (divorce
lawyer).
And anyway, if you buy something off the 'net and it turns out to not
be what you thought is was, what is your recourse?

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Old February 23rd 07, 03:00 AM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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Frosty wrote:


I usually tell potential customers (and I *know* this'll **** off the
jewelers reading here) that your diamond purchase is NOT an
investment!


I tell my clients the same thing.

Wanna invest in diamonds? Educate yourself and fly over to S. Africa
or Antwerp and buy a few hundred carets of rough...


Unless he is an invited guest to one of the diamond clubs, he won't be
able to. Buying rough diamonds is only for the selected few. Besides,
what is he going to do with the rough?

What you are buying is a symbol of your love and commitment to your
future (or present) wife.
Personally I bought my future wife a house and it wasn't until 18
years into our marriage that I bought her a diamond.
I tell young couples just starting out to get a pretty-to-them,
sparkly diamond of about a quarter caret, maybe an I2, h-j color and
drop it into a simple 18k and with platinum head standard engagement
ring, and save their money for housing and diapers.
If your wife-to-be DEMANDS a one caret D flawless diamond, picking a
diamond is the least of your troubles!


For $400? I don't think so.

You might as well just sign all
your assets over to her now and cut out the middleman (divorce
lawyer).
And anyway, if you buy something off the 'net and it turns out to not
be what you thought is was, what is your recourse?


I agree. Buy local.

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Old February 23rd 07, 05:30 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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On 22 Feb, 07:40, "robr" wrote:
I'm looking for a reputable jewelry dealer that lists stone
characteristics such as color and clarity. My wife wants a pair of
diamond studs (set in either silver, white gold or platinum) for her
40th birthday. The wife doesn't care if they are man made diamonds
(not simulants) or come from the DeBeers monopoly, or if I need to buy
the stones separately and have them set. My budget is around $400 (so
she's getting some small-ass studs probably set in white gold ).

Thanks for any recommendations.


Try checking from http://www.investor-site.co.uk/ by typing diamonds
onto search box at home page. I've found this list of search service
sites from http://www.iii-online.co.uk/5.html and that one as I was
looking for investment diamonds. Hoping this helps...pappa


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Old February 24th 07, 03:33 AM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:00:05 +0000, Abrasha wrote:

Wanna invest in diamonds? Educate yourself and fly over to S. Africa
or Antwerp and buy a few hundred carets of rough...


Unless he is an invited guest to one of the diamond clubs, he won't be
able to. Buying rough diamonds is only for the selected few. Besides,
what is he going to do with the rough?


I don't know what the OP would do with roughs, but they are used in
jewelry by Carles Codina and Toddd Reed. I surmise that this is a
conceptual stance about cubes that look rough and ordinary
actually being valuable -- or maybe these jewelers just like the looks of
them.
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Old February 24th 07, 09:55 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
Abrasha
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mbstevens wrote:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:00:05 +0000, Abrasha wrote:

Wanna invest in diamonds? Educate yourself and fly over to S. Africa
or Antwerp and buy a few hundred carets of rough...

Unless he is an invited guest to one of the diamond clubs, he won't be
able to. Buying rough diamonds is only for the selected few. Besides,
what is he going to do with the rough?


I don't know what the OP would do with roughs, but they are used in
jewelry by Carles Codina and Toddd Reed. I surmise that this is a
conceptual stance about cubes that look rough and ordinary
actually being valuable -- or maybe these jewelers just like the looks of
them.


That's not the kind of rough the above poster was talking about. He was
trying to suggest to get rough the than cut and polish into finished stones.

The rough diamonds Todd Reed uses is not suitable for cutting.

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Old February 25th 07, 06:09 AM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
mbstevens
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On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:55:39 +0000, Abrasha wrote:

Unless he is an invited guest to one of the diamond clubs, he won't be
able to. Buying rough diamonds is only for the selected few.

.........

That's not the kind of rough the above poster was talking about.


So, is there some known practice of De Beers releasing poor quality roughs
to the general market and keeping the high quality ones for the clubs?
If so, what is the cut-off point? Just being cuttable?

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Old February 25th 07, 09:47 AM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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mbstevens wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:55:39 +0000, Abrasha wrote:

Unless he is an invited guest to one of the diamond clubs, he won't be
able to. Buying rough diamonds is only for the selected few.
.........

That's not the kind of rough the above poster was talking about.


So, is there some known practice of De Beers releasing poor quality roughs
to the general market and keeping the high quality ones for the clubs?
If so, what is the cut-off point? Just being cuttable?


There is no such thing as a "general market" for diamond rough. And De
Beers does not sell to "clubs". Besides there is no diamond that is
useless. If it is not suitable to be cut into a precious stone, it can
always be used a a cutting compound, or a polishing compound, or a
variety of several other industrial uses.

The working of De Beers is much more complicated than I can explain in
an online post. I strongly suggest, that if you are truly interested in
the working of the international diamond markets, which involves
everything from mining to the final product, you go to your library and
read many of several dozen books written on the subject over the years.
You may want to, because you exhibit an exquisite lack of knowledge
about the subject.

An interesting and entertaining book is Diamonds, myth, magic and
reality, by Crown Publishers, editor Robert Maillard. The book is out
of print, you may be able to find it in a library or Amazon.com.

The history of the diamond industry and De Beers is a fascinating one.

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