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Yet another thread All About Karen
We were watching the PBS special about the Carpenters, "Close to You". They're
selling the DVD for $120 and the DVD + CDs for $180. The question arises, is the extra bonus 45 minutes on the DVD *really* worth buying it for? Are the CDs something only available from PBS, or could we get them for less elsewhere? Karen Carpenter, tragic loss at an early age -- Finished 12/14/03 -- Mermaid (Dimensions) WIP: Fireman's Prayer, Amid Amish Life, Angel of Autumn, Calif Sampler, Holiday Snowglobe Paralegal - Writer - Editor - Researcher http://hometown.aol.com/kmc528/KMC.html |
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I have to respond here as a staunch supporter of PBS. You are not
"buying" the CDs or DVDs. You are donating money to the PBS station and the CDs or DVDs are a thank you gift. Most of the gifts are available elsewhere for purchase, but the idea is to support the PBS station. Anne (in Ellicott City, MD) who just Sunday put in 5 hours answering the phones for my PBS station pledge drive. Karen C - California wrote: We were watching the PBS special about the Carpenters, "Close to You". They're selling the DVD for $120 and the DVD + CDs for $180. The question arises, is the extra bonus 45 minutes on the DVD *really* worth buying it for? Are the CDs something only available from PBS, or could we get them for less elsewhere? Karen Carpenter, tragic loss at an early age |
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I have to respond here as a staunch supporter of PBS. You are not
"buying" the CDs or DVDs. You are donating money to the PBS station and the CDs or DVDs are a thank you gift. Most of the gifts are available elsewhere for purchase, but the idea is to support the PBS station. In some areas your local PBS station even has stores in malls where you can get a lot of the same items they give as gifts during the fundraising. Lots of other very cool stuff as well, including lots of stuff for kids featuring various PBS kid show heros. And you get to support your station by buying there, they just get less this way than they would by direct donation. Caryn Blue Wizard Designs http://hometown.aol.com/crzy4xst/index.html Updated: 7/7/03 -- now available Dragon of the Stars View WIPs at: http://community.webshots.com/user/carynlws (Caryn's UFO's) |
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In article m, "Anne (in
Ellicott City, MD)" writes: You are not "buying" the CDs or DVDs. You are donating money to the PBS station and the CDs or DVDs are a thank you gift. As someone who was once a member of three PBS stations at the same time, I'm aware of that. I am already a paid-up member for this year (through December), so this wouldn't be the difference between becoming a member or not, but the difference between spending $180 I don't have at PBS versus spending $30 I don't have at Tower Records. At the moment, I'm not in a financial position to be blowing $150 unnecessarily, no matter how good the cause. When I get back to work, I'll also get back to supporting PBS at the $350 a year level. -- Finished 12/14/03 -- Mermaid (Dimensions) WIP: Fireman's Prayer, Amid Amish Life, Angel of Autumn, Calif Sampler, Holiday Snowglobe Paralegal - Writer - Editor - Researcher http://hometown.aol.com/kmc528/KMC.html |
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And if you add the numbnutz doing the Victory Garden....
I've not seen NOW - I usually reading to DD then. Cheryl On 3/12/04 12:49 PM, in article , "escapee" wrote: The Jerry Baker thing is beyond my comprehension, so we agree there. I have not seen NOVA is a while, probably only once in the current season. I have no opinion on that. However, it is a good cause if only one show is carrying a message to those who are cluless. The down side in most cases with PBS is that, the people who watch shows like NOW already know! V On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 12:33:12 -0500, Cheryl Isaak opined: I can't in good conscience, support PBS any more - they insist on showing Jerry Baker - who I think is more than dangerous. That snake oil of his will kill some one yet. And so many recent Novas haven't been science, but thinly disguised attacks against the defense industry, nuclear power or NASA. Cheryl On 3/12/04 8:48 AM, in article , "escapee" wrote: PBS doesn't SELL anything. They have offers in response to the level of donation. It's a THANK YOU gift. We always send our money to them during Bill Moyer's NOW. We refuse the thank you gift. Let all the donation go to support that essential show. On 12 Mar 2004 00:12:20 GMT, S (Karen C - California) opined: We were watching the PBS special about the Carpenters, "Close to You". They're selling the DVD for $120 and the DVD + CDs for $180. The question arises, is the extra bonus 45 minutes on the DVD *really* worth buying it for? Are the CDs something only available from PBS, or could we get them for less elsewhere? Karen Carpenter, tragic loss at an early age |
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On 3/12/04 3:49 PM, in article ,
"Lucretia Borgia" wrote: On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:11:58 -0500, Cheryl Isaak wrote: On 3/12/04 1:02 PM, in article , "Lucretia Borgia" wrote: On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 12:33:12 -0500, Cheryl Isaak wrote: I can't in good conscience, support PBS any more - they insist on showing Jerry Baker - who I think is more than dangerous. That snake oil of his will kill some one yet. And so many recent Novas haven't been science, but thinly disguised attacks against the defense industry, nuclear power or NASA. Cheryl There was a good Nova recently about the Swissair crash. I watched that and found it a good programme. But you are right, it is not what Nova's were say ten years, far less twenty years, ago. I missed that one - over the last 3-5 years Nova has become very political. Cheryl This one was not. It was very well done. It detailed how they got the pieces up, how they put them all back together and why the decision was arrived at that it stemmed from the first class entertainment system cables getting to flashpoint, how that started a small fire which then went undetected for too long. By the time smoke was coming into the cockpit, the game was already over. There was nothing they could have done, so the theory that had the pilot disobeyed the rule book and not come back over here to dump fuel in the sea, he could have landed at Halifax safely was finally debunked. I am sure his widow and kids are relieved. It was very complimentary about Vic Gerden who headed the investigation and about how he ran it, on and on though being pressured by both the US and Canadian politicians, until he was certain he really had the answer. However, very few (as usual) of his serious recommendations for alterations to wiring in aircraft have been attended to. Not much has changed. I'll have to on the lookout for that one. I got really peeved at the show in general for reporting as if one particular view point on the "green house effect" as the only one. Especially since there is many schools of thought on it; some even think we are headed for an ice age soon (speaking in terms of geologic time) based on reading the ice cores from Greenland and Antarctica. There other one that annoyed the P*ss out of me was on the effectiveness of the PATRIOT missile when the only "expert" consulted is a staff scientist for a direct competitor of Raytheon. Not the Israelis, not Raytheon, not the Army, but a MIT professor, with a highly paid position with another company. He's since been thoroughly debunked, but the show still repeats. Cheryl |
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On 3/12/04 5:43 PM, in article ,
"Lucretia Borgia" wrote: On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:16:21 -0500, Cheryl Isaak wrote: On 3/12/04 3:49 PM, in article , "Lucretia Borgia" wrote: On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:11:58 -0500, Cheryl Isaak wrote: On 3/12/04 1:02 PM, in article , "Lucretia Borgia" wrote: On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 12:33:12 -0500, Cheryl Isaak wrote: I can't in good conscience, support PBS any more - they insist on showing Jerry Baker - who I think is more than dangerous. That snake oil of his will kill some one yet. And so many recent Novas haven't been science, but thinly disguised attacks against the defense industry, nuclear power or NASA. Cheryl There was a good Nova recently about the Swissair crash. I watched that and found it a good programme. But you are right, it is not what Nova's were say ten years, far less twenty years, ago. I missed that one - over the last 3-5 years Nova has become very political. Cheryl This one was not. It was very well done. It detailed how they got the pieces up, how they put them all back together and why the decision was arrived at that it stemmed from the first class entertainment system cables getting to flashpoint, how that started a small fire which then went undetected for too long. By the time smoke was coming into the cockpit, the game was already over. There was nothing they could have done, so the theory that had the pilot disobeyed the rule book and not come back over here to dump fuel in the sea, he could have landed at Halifax safely was finally debunked. I am sure his widow and kids are relieved. It was very complimentary about Vic Gerden who headed the investigation and about how he ran it, on and on though being pressured by both the US and Canadian politicians, until he was certain he really had the answer. However, very few (as usual) of his serious recommendations for alterations to wiring in aircraft have been attended to. Not much has changed. I'll have to on the lookout for that one. I got really peeved at the show in general for reporting as if one particular view point on the "green house effect" as the only one. Especially since there is many schools of thought on it; some even think we are headed for an ice age soon (speaking in terms of geologic time) based on reading the ice cores from Greenland and Antarctica. There other one that annoyed the P*ss out of me was on the effectiveness of the PATRIOT missile when the only "expert" consulted is a staff scientist for a direct competitor of Raytheon. Not the Israelis, not Raytheon, not the Army, but a MIT professor, with a highly paid position with another company. He's since been thoroughly debunked, but the show still repeats. Cheryl Yes, that sort of thing is too bad and limits their credibility. But don't you think that generally happens to a very good show? They go on for years with excellent quality and then it is almost as if they feel entitled to cruise because if they say it, it is so. God syndrome ? Several really "poor" (as in political or bad science) episodes in a row really ruined the show for me. I'd love to see the ones from the 70's through the late 90's in reruns. By 2001, it was a shadow of its former self. Cheryl |
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Cheryl, how many times do I have to tell you, either talk about Me,Me,Me or
change the header! My SuperPowers must be fading, I can't even keep "All About Karen" all about Karen. Where have I gone wrong? -- Finished 12/14/03 -- Mermaid (Dimensions) WIP: Fireman's Prayer, Amid Amish Life, Angel of Autumn, Calif Sampler, Holiday Snowglobe Paralegal - Writer - Editor - Researcher http://hometown.aol.com/kmc528/KMC.html |
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