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We went to an opening of Archeological finds in Shikmona [ -15th
centurt BCE] , which is the oldest part from which Haifa grew. Findings are mainly statuettes, ceramics, glass each period and it `s findings. But in the other part of the museum they now have an Exhibition about Pirates boats ,,,, wonderful knots are shown , wonderful crimshaw art, and an Armor Vest that looks as if it`s knitted from metal threads ,,, of course it isn`t but ...... mirjam |
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We went to an opening of Archeological finds in Shikmona and an Armor Vest that looks as if it`s knitted from metal threads ,,, of course it isn`t but ...... I've always thought that the "armor" in Monty Python's Holy Grail - which WAS knitted - was very cleverly done. Looks like it was knitted in black then highlighted with silver somehow? I haven't been able to find any information about it but I try to figure it out everytime I watch the movie! -- -:¦:- ·.·´¨ ¨)) ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ..·´ Chris ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.· |
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"Chris Underwood" wrote in message news:eq6Yj.3210$Zy1.1207@trndny05... wrote We went to an opening of Archeological finds in Shikmona and an Armor Vest that looks as if it`s knitted from metal threads ,,, of course it isn`t but ...... I've always thought that the "armor" in Monty Python's Holy Grail - which WAS knitted - was very cleverly done. Looks like it was knitted in black then highlighted with silver somehow? I haven't been able to find any information about it but I try to figure it out everytime I watch the movie! -- It can be knitted in dishcloth cotton then sprayed silver. Real mail is made from iron rings riveted together. Mary |
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On May 19, 1:05*pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
"Chris Underwood" wrote in message news:eq6Yj.3210$Zy1.1207@trndny05... wrote We went to an opening of Archeological finds in *Shikmona and an Armor Vest that looks as if it`s knitted from metal threads ,,, of course it isn`t but ...... I've always thought that the "armor" in Monty Python's Holy Grail - which WAS knitted - was very cleverly done. *Looks like it was knitted in black then highlighted with silver somehow? *I haven't been able to find any information about it but I try to figure it out everytime I watch the movie! -- It can be knitted in dishcloth cotton then sprayed silver. Real mail is made from iron rings riveted together. Mary Thank you Mary , most people by now are aware of this `Image of knitting` Some of the armors are indeed made by many rings connected , and ome are made by a kind of knotted method or a kind of naaldbinding. mirjam |
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wrote: On May 19, 1:05*pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote: "Chris Underwood" wrote wrote We went to an opening of Archeological finds in *Shikmona and an Armor Vest that looks as if it`s knitted from metal threads ,,, of course it isn`t but ...... I've always thought that the "armor" in Monty Python's Holy Grail - which WAS knitted - was very cleverly done. *Looks like it was knitted in black then highlighted with silver somehow? *I haven't been able to find any information about it but I try to figure it out everytime I watch the movie! It can be knitted in dishcloth cotton then sprayed silver. Real mail is made from iron rings riveted together. Thank you Mary , most people by now are aware of this `Image of knitting` Some of the armors are indeed made by many rings connected , and ome are made by a kind of knotted method or a kind of naaldbinding. Are there any pictures online or websites about the knotted armors? I know there is one simple headdress that is nalbinding in gold wire but I hadn't heard of armor done that way. =Tamar |
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On May 20, 7:47*am, (Richard Eney) wrote:
In article , wrote: On May 19, 1:05*pm, "Mary Fisher" wrote: "Chris Underwood" wrote wrote We went to an opening of Archeological finds in *Shikmona and an Armor Vest that looks as if it`s knitted from metal threads ,,, of course it isn`t but ...... I've always thought that the "armor" in Monty Python's Holy Grail - which WAS knitted - was very cleverly done. *Looks like it was knitted in black then highlighted with silver somehow? *I haven't been able to find any information about it but I try to figure it out everytime I watch the movie! It can be knitted in dishcloth cotton then sprayed silver. Real mail is made from iron rings riveted together. Thank you Mary , most people by now are aware of this `Image of knitting` Some of the armors are indeed made by many rings connected , and ome are made by a kind of knotted method or a kind of naaldbinding. Are there any pictures online or websites about the knotted armors? I know there is one simple headdress that is nalbinding in gold wire but I hadn't heard of armor done that way. =Tamar- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just now i don`t know if i can find a picture, but i know that When we dug in some Crusader places, we found a rusted falling apart one and was made with one contineous metal thread, it looked like they looped it over some kind of stick, and than using a second one made the next Row , twisting the over row into the under row . Like intelocking twisting 2 metal springs on each other ,,, mirjam |
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"YarnWright" wrote in message ... .... How can (genuine) mail armour be made by nåhlbindning? Even that made for modern use, e.g. metal gloves to protect butchers' hands, are made by connected rings. Nåhlbindning depends on flexible 'yarn' of some kind. In fact (before anyone corrects me) my use of the word 'rings' is wrong because the elements are penannular - not enclosed. That's how the 'rings' can be threaded through each other. They only beconme complete circles when riveted together. Mary |
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On May 20, 10:43*am, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
"YarnWright" wrote in message ... ... How can (genuine) mail armour be made by nåhlbindning? Even that made for modern use, e.g. metal gloves to protect butchers' hands, are made by connected rings. Nåhlbindning depends on flexible 'yarn' of some kind. In fact (before anyone corrects me) my use of the word 'rings' is wrong because the elements are penannular - not enclosed. That's how the 'rings' can be threaded through each other. They only beconme complete circles when riveted together. Mary Mary , i really saw [at least three that i remember], local blacksmiths , who turned one spring over/into another and in this way made a kind of armour, strong, metal and flexible, if i hadn`t seen it with my own eyes i wouldn`t have thought it possible. People all over history, all over the globe were extremely efficient and talented in making all kinds of things, that they NEEDED. We get so many things ready made , that we forget to Praise the fantastic abbilities of people to MAKE objectes , [ some very complicated] themselves. As i wrote to you we found enough rusted broken parts , to understand how they were made,,, mirjam |
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Thank you Noreen for your kind words.
and to Mary, i have a ps ,,,, In Belgium , Brusselles in the "AFRICA " Museum, there are Several Straw and [dried] Grass and other Vegetable armors, that were collected through the ex colonies , from various tribes. I observed some of those quite closely. All are made with Contineous Fibers. None are made of any ringlets nore short parts squeezed into ringlets. People are very inventive and learn quick , for example , MarcoPolo went to China and learned there, part of Their techniques, he brought those home, and applied them to other materials, which his people had !!!!!! If you read how Technology and crafts spread, you will be amazed. I think you live in UK, look around you and see how many things in UK , were imported, and how many things your Sailors, merchants and misionaries taught to other people. mirjam |
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On May 20, 10:43*am, "Mary Fisher" wrote:
"YarnWright" wrote in message ... ... How can (genuine) mail armour be made by nåhlbindning? Even that made for modern use, e.g. metal gloves to protect butchers' hands, are made by connected rings. Nåhlbindning depends on flexible 'yarn' of some kind. In fact (before anyone corrects me) my use of the word 'rings' is wrong because the elements are penannular - not enclosed. That's how the 'rings' can be threaded through each other. They only beconme complete circles when riveted together. Mary Mary , you made an effort to tell me that your name was almost like mine ,,,,,,thus why did you overlook that I specificly wrote that it was `some sort of,,,,` meaning it was not exactly but it looks quite like it !!!! mirjam |
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