*****OFF TOPIC"****** trusts and taxes

well, after over half an hour on the phone from nz to calif this morning i
find out new info on closing my moms 'living trust'.

the lawyer told me (no one told me this before btw) that all i need to do is
declare in writing to the trust asset holders that as the trustee the trust
is now closed and all future income should show in my SS#.
i think as it was a 'living trust' in effect it ceases to exist as of moms
passing. therefore, after i pay the g'kids, all the assets become mine and i
am responsible for the taxes on them.
not estate taxes as it is well below the amount at which you even have to
file an estate tax return.
i dont need a lawyer just a tax guy, which i have.

he told me i need a new estate tax number. i dont think i do.
i intend to file a personal tax return (lower taxes than on an estate,
eeeeeeek, by a heap btw) and pay the due taxes and penaltys on that for 2005
and beyond.

anyone with ideas on any of this?
any questions?
having more brainwaves today than i really wanted in the south pacific,
jeanne

--
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nzlstar on webshots

No ideas Jeanne. I'm always boggled at the huge tangle you've had to deal
with. A lesser woman would be in the loony bin by now. You have my utmost
admiration. You are one tough cookie and I hope this can be put behind you
SOON!
Hugs,
Kathyl
"nzlstar*" wrote in message
...
well, after over half an hour on the phone from nz to calif this morning
i find out new info on closing my moms 'living trust'.

the lawyer told me (no one told me this before btw) that all i need to do
is declare in writing to the trust asset holders that as the trustee the
trust is now closed and all future income should show in my SS#.
i think as it was a 'living trust' in effect it ceases to exist as of moms
passing. therefore, after i pay the g'kids, all the assets become mine and
i am responsible for the taxes on them.
not estate taxes as it is well below the amount at which you even have to
file an estate tax return.
i dont need a lawyer just a tax guy, which i have.

he told me i need a new estate tax number. i dont think i do.
i intend to file a personal tax return (lower taxes than on an estate,
eeeeeeek, by a heap btw) and pay the due taxes and penaltys on that for
2005 and beyond.

anyone with ideas on any of this?
any questions?
having more brainwaves today than i really wanted in the south pacific,
jeanne

--
nzlstar at yahoo dot com
nzlstar on yahoo msg'r
nzlstar on webshots

oh Kathyl,
not such a tough cookie, i've been a heap of crumbs for the most part over
all this.
other than my 3 months last yr to usa/canada and a couple of days helping dh
do his flower deliverys, i've stayed at home and online. its the closest
thing to sanity i can muster.
mom set it up to be easy and simple. this part of it would have been had i
been advised at any of the meetings/phone convos with various interested
partys that all i had to do was declare the trust closed, transfer the
assets into my name/ss# and get on with it. i only found out that this
morning, now to get the rest of them to come to the party and advise irs
with corrections for 2005 income and get that tax return done. i just
emailed/cc the lawyer and tax guy about my vision of all this.
hopefully they will agree. if not i'm gonna get the rest to agree.
i will get this done as i see it was always intended to be done, just taking
me longer thats all, lol.
then on to detroit and with Gen drive to london(to pick up the unsold vase),
novi, MI for the big sewing expo, then let the adventure continue. gonna get
to paulettes in WV and hopefully on to Houston for the 'really big shoe, uh
i mean show', lol.
then home again, home again, jiggity jig or whatever, lol.
cheers and thanks for your confidence, it really helps to know someone feels
that for me.
jeanne
--
nzlstar at yahoo dot com
nzlstar on yahoo msg'r
nzlstar on webshots

"KJ" wrote in message
news:JnIOg.189622$1i1.8520@attbi_s72...
No ideas Jeanne. I'm always boggled at the huge tangle you've had to deal
with. A lesser woman would be in the loony bin by now. You have my
utmost
admiration. You are one tough cookie and I hope this can be put behind
you
SOON!
Hugs,
Kathyl
"nzlstar*" wrote in message
...
well, after over half an hour on the phone from nz to calif this morning
i find out new info on closing my moms 'living trust'.

the lawyer told me (no one told me this before btw) that all i need to do
is declare in writing to the trust asset holders that as the trustee the
trust is now closed and all future income should show in my SS#.
i think as it was a 'living trust' in effect it ceases to exist as of
moms
passing. therefore, after i pay the g'kids, all the assets become mine
and
i am responsible for the taxes on them.
not estate taxes as it is well below the amount at which you even have to
file an estate tax return.
i dont need a lawyer just a tax guy, which i have.

he told me i need a new estate tax number. i dont think i do.
i intend to file a personal tax return (lower taxes than on an estate,
eeeeeeek, by a heap btw) and pay the due taxes and penaltys on that for
2005 and beyond.

anyone with ideas on any of this?
any questions?
having more brainwaves today than i really wanted in the south pacific,
jeanne

--
nzlstar at yahoo dot com
nzlstar on yahoo msg'r
nzlstar on webshots

If you happen to wander through Iowa in all that....be sure to look me up!
I don't "think" I'll be heading to Houston this year...but you never
know...my brother lives there and his girlfriend/roommate has moved out. I
could go visit him! I wasn't thrilled with her so I did not want to visit.
I'm heading to the Texas panhandle on Monday to help my folks again. My
mother fell about three weeks ago and broke her pelvis. She's being
released from the rehab/nursing home tomorrow. I think my dad is a bit
freaked at the thought of playing nurse, so I'll go down for a couple weeks
to get them settled, or find some help for them if needed after that. This
will be my third trip down this year.
I guess I'm making up for not going down for a while! I have a couple
places where I can use the internet, so I can check in and read the news
here. I'm also taking my sewing machine and a couple projects to work on.
It must be late....I'm rambling.
KJ


"nzlstar*" wrote in message
...
oh Kathyl,
not such a tough cookie, i've been a heap of crumbs for the most part over
all this.
other than my 3 months last yr to usa/canada and a couple of days helping
dh do his flower deliverys, i've stayed at home and online. its the
closest thing to sanity i can muster.
mom set it up to be easy and simple. this part of it would have been had i
been advised at any of the meetings/phone convos with various interested
partys that all i had to do was declare the trust closed, transfer the
assets into my name/ss# and get on with it. i only found out that this
morning, now to get the rest of them to come to the party and advise irs
with corrections for 2005 income and get that tax return done. i just
emailed/cc the lawyer and tax guy about my vision of all this.
hopefully they will agree. if not i'm gonna get the rest to agree.
i will get this done as i see it was always intended to be done, just
taking me longer thats all, lol.
then on to detroit and with Gen drive to london(to pick up the unsold
vase), novi, MI for the big sewing expo, then let the adventure continue.
gonna get to paulettes in WV and hopefully on to Houston for the 'really
big shoe, uh i mean show', lol.
then home again, home again, jiggity jig or whatever, lol.
cheers and thanks for your confidence, it really helps to know someone
feels that for me.
jeanne
--
nzlstar at yahoo dot com
nzlstar on yahoo msg'r
nzlstar on webshots

"KJ" wrote in message
news:JnIOg.189622$1i1.8520@attbi_s72...
No ideas Jeanne. I'm always boggled at the huge tangle you've had to
deal
with. A lesser woman would be in the loony bin by now. You have my
utmost
admiration. You are one tough cookie and I hope this can be put behind
you
SOON!
Hugs,
Kathyl
"nzlstar*" wrote in message
...
well, after over half an hour on the phone from nz to calif this morning
i find out new info on closing my moms 'living trust'.

the lawyer told me (no one told me this before btw) that all i need to
do
is declare in writing to the trust asset holders that as the trustee the
trust is now closed and all future income should show in my SS#.
i think as it was a 'living trust' in effect it ceases to exist as of
moms
passing. therefore, after i pay the g'kids, all the assets become mine
and
i am responsible for the taxes on them.
not estate taxes as it is well below the amount at which you even have
to
file an estate tax return.
i dont need a lawyer just a tax guy, which i have.

he told me i need a new estate tax number. i dont think i do.
i intend to file a personal tax return (lower taxes than on an estate,
eeeeeeek, by a heap btw) and pay the due taxes and penaltys on that for
2005 and beyond.

anyone with ideas on any of this?
any questions?
having more brainwaves today than i really wanted in the south pacific,
jeanne

--
nzlstar at yahoo dot com
nzlstar on yahoo msg'r
nzlstar on webshots

Jeanne,

don't forget to let me know when you are going to be out at Paulette's
place!! It's only a few hours away, so there is a definite chance of
me (and Rebekah) getting out there!!

Larisa

nzlstar* wrote:
oh Kathyl,
not such a tough cookie, i've been a heap of crumbs for the most part over
all this.
other than my 3 months last yr to usa/canada and a couple of days helping dh
do his flower deliverys, i've stayed at home and online. its the closest
thing to sanity i can muster.
mom set it up to be easy and simple. this part of it would have been had i
been advised at any of the meetings/phone convos with various interested
partys that all i had to do was declare the trust closed, transfer the
assets into my name/ss# and get on with it. i only found out that this
morning, now to get the rest of them to come to the party and advise irs
with corrections for 2005 income and get that tax return done. i just
emailed/cc the lawyer and tax guy about my vision of all this.
hopefully they will agree. if not i'm gonna get the rest to agree.
i will get this done as i see it was always intended to be done, just taking
me longer thats all, lol.
then on to detroit and with Gen drive to london(to pick up the unsold vase),
novi, MI for the big sewing expo, then let the adventure continue. gonna get
to paulettes in WV and hopefully on to Houston for the 'really big shoe, uh
i mean show', lol.
then home again, home again, jiggity jig or whatever, lol.
cheers and thanks for your confidence, it really helps to know someone feels
that for me.
jeanne
--
nzlstar at yahoo dot com
nzlstar on yahoo msg'r
nzlstar on webshots

"KJ" wrote in message
news:JnIOg.189622$1i1.8520@attbi_s72...
No ideas Jeanne. I'm always boggled at the huge tangle you've had to deal
with. A lesser woman would be in the loony bin by now. You have my
utmost
admiration. You are one tough cookie and I hope this can be put behind
you
SOON!
Hugs,
Kathyl
"nzlstar*" wrote in message
...
well, after over half an hour on the phone from nz to calif this morning
i find out new info on closing my moms 'living trust'.

the lawyer told me (no one told me this before btw) that all i need to do
is declare in writing to the trust asset holders that as the trustee the
trust is now closed and all future income should show in my SS#.
i think as it was a 'living trust' in effect it ceases to exist as of
moms
passing. therefore, after i pay the g'kids, all the assets become mine
and
i am responsible for the taxes on them.
not estate taxes as it is well below the amount at which you even have to
file an estate tax return.
i dont need a lawyer just a tax guy, which i have.

he told me i need a new estate tax number. i dont think i do.
i intend to file a personal tax return (lower taxes than on an estate,
eeeeeeek, by a heap btw) and pay the due taxes and penaltys on that for
2005 and beyond.

anyone with ideas on any of this?
any questions?
having more brainwaves today than i really wanted in the south pacific,
jeanne

--
nzlstar at yahoo dot com
nzlstar on yahoo msg'r
nzlstar on webshots

Oh Dear Jeanne..... I know you will be ecstatic to have all of this
behind you, and well relieved!
Too bad you're not going to get up to the beautiful Pacific Northwest
this trip.... we could go "lime green" shopping to our hearts content.
Just have a good time - I insist!!

Hugz
Patti in Seattle

well of course, silly girl. i know u'r not that far from our previous convos
in msg'r, lol.
i have emailed two of those and waiting for a reply tho i'm thinking it wont
be soon enough to fix what i need them to fix before i get there. oh well.
all those links you found me sure helped clarify my position, along with
info lawyer and tax guy gave me.
fingers crossed it all works as i hope it will without too much nonsense.
seems straight forward to me from what i've read on the tax site and what i
was told earlier in the day.
roll on end of this saga,
jeanne
--
nzlstar at yahoo dot com
nzlstar on yahoo msg'r
nzlstar on webshots

"off kilter wrote...
Jeanne,

don't forget to let me know when you are going to be out at Paulette's
place!! It's only a few hours away, so there is a definite chance of
me (and Rebekah) getting out there!!

Larisa

nzlstar* wrote:
oh Kathyl,
not such a tough cookie, i've been a heap of crumbs for the most part
over
all this.
other than my 3 months last yr to usa/canada and a couple of days helping
dh
do his flower deliverys, i've stayed at home and online. its the closest
thing to sanity i can muster.
mom set it up to be easy and simple. this part of it would have been had
i
been advised at any of the meetings/phone convos with various interested
partys that all i had to do was declare the trust closed, transfer the
assets into my name/ss# and get on with it. i only found out that this
morning, now to get the rest of them to come to the party and advise irs
with corrections for 2005 income and get that tax return done. i just
emailed/cc the lawyer and tax guy about my vision of all this.
hopefully they will agree. if not i'm gonna get the rest to agree.
i will get this done as i see it was always intended to be done, just
taking
me longer thats all, lol.
then on to detroit and with Gen drive to london(to pick up the unsold
vase),
novi, MI for the big sewing expo, then let the adventure continue. gonna
get
to paulettes in WV and hopefully on to Houston for the 'really big shoe,
uh
i mean show', lol.
then home again, home again, jiggity jig or whatever, lol.
cheers and thanks for your confidence, it really helps to know someone
feels
that for me.
jeanne
--
nzlstar at yahoo dot com
nzlstar on yahoo msg'r
nzlstar on webshots

"KJ" wrote in message
news:JnIOg.189622$1i1.8520@attbi_s72...
No ideas Jeanne. I'm always boggled at the huge tangle you've had to
deal
with. A lesser woman would be in the loony bin by now. You have my
utmost
admiration. You are one tough cookie and I hope this can be put behind
you
SOON!
Hugs,
Kathyl
"nzlstar*" wrote in message
...
well, after over half an hour on the phone from nz to calif this
morning
i find out new info on closing my moms 'living trust'.

the lawyer told me (no one told me this before btw) that all i need to
do
is declare in writing to the trust asset holders that as the trustee
the
trust is now closed and all future income should show in my SS#.
i think as it was a 'living trust' in effect it ceases to exist as of
moms
passing. therefore, after i pay the g'kids, all the assets become mine
and
i am responsible for the taxes on them.
not estate taxes as it is well below the amount at which you even have
to
file an estate tax return.
i dont need a lawyer just a tax guy, which i have.

he told me i need a new estate tax number. i dont think i do.
i intend to file a personal tax return (lower taxes than on an estate,
eeeeeeek, by a heap btw) and pay the due taxes and penaltys on that
for
2005 and beyond.

anyone with ideas on any of this?
any questions?
having more brainwaves today than i really wanted in the south
pacific,
jeanne

--
nzlstar at yahoo dot com
nzlstar on yahoo msg'r
nzlstar on webshots

oh now, Patti,
that is not fair tempting me with all that talk of LIME green.
you know i'm a sucker for that little beauty in any form.
its not the expense or the time to make it up that way again, its more a
matter of 'how much energy does this old body have left in her'.
i wont know that til i'm there and get thru the first stop in calif and then
picking up the vase in london. still hoping i can figure out a way to sell
it in usa for a decent price rather than have to carry it home again. oh
dear me. all these things to do. it all takes a toll on the grey matter as
well. sometimes i wander round in a blur.
i will have a good time somewhere while over there tho. i promise, lol. heck
all the s.e.x. i'll get to have is fun, eh.
cheers,
jeanne
--
nzlstar at yahoo dot com
nzlstar on yahoo msg'r
nzlstar on webshots


"Patti S" wrote...
Oh Dear Jeanne..... I know you will be ecstatic to have all of this
behind you, and well relieved!
Too bad you're not going to get up to the beautiful Pacific Northwest this
trip.... we could go "lime green" shopping to our hearts content.
Just have a good time - I insist!!
Hugz
Patti in Seattle

I have quite a collection of lime greens - one of my favorites as
well, so if you are ever up NY way, I'll let you pick through them.
Even have some I dyed myself.

Linda
PATCHogue, NY

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:52:20 +1200, "nzlstar*"
wrote:

that is not fair tempting me with all that talk of LIME green.
you know i'm a sucker for that little beauty in any form.

heheheh, that ought to get her juices flowing! I'm even ready to come! How
far are you from Albany?? g
KJ


"Witchy Stitcher" wrote in message
...
I have quite a collection of lime greens - one of my favorites as
well, so if you are ever up NY way, I'll let you pick through them.
Even have some I dyed myself.

Linda
PATCHogue, NY

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 12:52:20 +1200, "nzlstar*"
wrote:

that is not fair tempting me with all that talk of LIME green.
you know i'm a sucker for that little beauty in any form.