OT - Story: My child hating reputation

boggle WHO takes a baby to Las Vegas??? And WHY???

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
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Dr. Sooz wrote:

Yup.

In Vegas, we went to a Cirque de Soleil show called "Mystere". CdS is pretty
overwhelming and intense, though beautiful. I was annoyed to see that people
showed up late for the show -- which includes performers *in* the audience.
Showing up late is kind of like jumping onstage. Really rude.

There was a tiny little girl there with her parents -- and in the 2nd row! She
started to wail about 5 minutes into the show. Really scream. Her daddy had
to carry her out of the theater -- winding his way among performers who were
doing things that required no distraction in order to keep the players safe!
It was madness.

The stupid thing -- after that, he came BACK IN with the child. More
screaming. Out again. Back in. Out again. I thought the ushers -- who have
a more-difficult job than most theater ushers do -- were going to have a
stroke. Finally he came back in and sat way back in the theater, up in the
back rows.

What the hell were those parents thinking? And if his daughter was going to
scream repeatedly, why didn't he stay out of the theater? (There were dozens
of things to do out there -- it wasn't simply a theater lobby, but stores, ice
cream fountain, casino lights, lots of entertaining stuff.) Sure, the poor,
poor guy had paid around $100 for his ticket. (And his daughter's.) But so
had WE. Everyone in the theater had paid at least $100 per ticket. Not only
that, but the slightest misstep in a performance could mean death to the
performer.

This tiny child was way too young to be there, period. Even
Kevin-The-Generous-Soul and Child-Adorer was miffed. It was just plain dumb.
~~
Sooz
-------
"Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John
Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance
~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
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LOL! I don't even like to be forced to hear endless stories about other
people's kids. One or two, sure, but they'd better be good.

As for selfishness, if doing what you like = selfish, then bringing
other human beings into the world and forcing them to be my immediate
relatives for the rest of their lives because I feel like it, seems FAR
more selfish than not having kids so you have more time to do what you like.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
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Bungadora wrote:
I think people have been of the opinion that I hate children, but I don't. I
just don't think they should be the centre of attention all the time. It's not
good for them.

What I hate is how when I go to a party where there are parents, they talk
about their children 90% of the time. And I sit there with a smile plastered on
my face thinking "I'm borrrred." If I matched them story for story with my cats
they'd think I was nuts.

And all the children tear around the common area around my house and I love it.
The cats stay in the yard that way.

Selfish for not having children? I dunno. I get to spend more time doing what
pleases me and I think that is what really bugs the people who say things like
that.

Dora

splort HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

cough cough cough choke

Who came up with that COMPLETELY MENTALLY DEFICIENT line of reasoning?

I'm sorry, I love kids and I'm glad I had them but that is the funniest
thing I've heard in a long time!

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
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Carla wrote:
The "selfishness" comes from not doing our part to ensure the future of
the human race (that's what I've been told, anyway). Oh, and let's not
forget "emotionally stunted".

Cheers,
Carla (selfishly childfree g)

Kalera Stratton wrote:

I'm boggling.

What do people think is selfish about not having children? I always
thought it was the opposite!

To get back on topic, I think that bead shows are not places for
young children or even older children, unless the older child can prove that
(s)he can behave and show some interest and knowledge of beads.

I definitely agree about young children, especially those in strollers.
However, I took my 7 YO granddaughter to the bead show in DE, which is held in
a firehall. A smaller show. She loved it. Turns out, she's a bead fondler
just like her bubbe! We stopped after an hour for refreshments and she was
eager to get back to the beads.

However, I would not take her 6YO brother with me. He wouldn't enjoy it and
neither would anyone else. It just depends on the child.
Cheri
(Bubbee to Emily and Nathan)

Hmmm. If your parents wanted grandchildren, they should have had more of
their own kids to ensure that at least one of them felt like breeding later.

Yeah, I feel that "unpatriotic" label. It's right up there with
"immoral", which I have started to use to describe anything I don't
personally like just to point out how funny it is to use it improperly.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
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Lee S. Billings wrote:

Logic doesn't enter into this, Kalera. Parents say "selfish" because THEY want
grandchildren, and you aren't giving in to their wishes. Other people say
"selfish" for lots of different reasons, the most common one being that you (as
a woman) aren't supposed to want a life of your OWN, you're supposed to want to
sacrifice everything to Have Babies. Sometimes "selfish" is a synonym for
"immature" -- after all, the only sign of maturity that matters is WANTING to
take on the responsibility for another life, so if you don't want that you're
only thinking of yourself. But mostly, it's just a magic-word argument. [1]

[1] Definition: any sort of negative label the use of which is automatically
supposed to make your opponent abandon their position, like magic. It's a
specialized form of the guilt-trip argument. Since women are heavily socialized
to be "caring and unselfish", this is often a very strong magic word to use on
us. Other common magic words in use at the moment are "unpatriotic" and
"liberal" -- the assumption is that once you've dragged those into the
discussion, you don't *need* to back up your own position.

Celine

That's another one of those things I wonder about... why people have the
sheel gall to ask about your reproductive life in the first place.

When I was pregnant with Sam, some of my coworkers seemed to think it
was impossible that it had been a purposeful pregnancy. (I was 28 but
looked 19.) The third time someone asked if my pregnancy was "planned",
I said "Well, my husband and I *weren't* using birth control, but we
*were* having sex, so it wasn't completely unexpected." (something to
that effect, I don't remember the exact wording.) You have never seen so
much backpedaling in your entire life! It was hilarious!

Another person asked me "how it happened". I looked at them like "YOU
HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME" and asked "Do you really need me to explain it?"

What is WRONG with people? WHY do they feel like your reproductive tract
is their business?

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
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Dr. Sooz wrote:
No one *dares* tell me I went without giving birth because I'm "selfish". I
will then tell them the horrible story of how ruined I was to be found sterile
at age 19 -- with details of the surgery and recovery. Hope they feel like
heels.
~~
Sooz
-------
"Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John
Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance
~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html

It just depends on the child.

This line is appropriate to everything we've discussed in this thread. It's so
true!
~~
Sooz
-------
"Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John
Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance
~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html

DUDE! This is the most random and wierd thing, but Juliet just said
"Mom, someday can you take me to Las Vegas?"

?????

I asked her where she came up with that, and she said "I hear things in
my brain sometimes, and my brain told me that I want to go to Las Vegas."

My child is WIERD.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


Kalera Stratton wrote:
boggle WHO takes a baby to Las Vegas??? And WHY???

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay

asks the people if they think
his daughter is inferior to a son in any way. So far, no one has ever said
that she was - how shocking.

DAMN RIGHT!
I'm an only child - and a girl
and my parents are plenty proud of me right now !!!

everyone please ignore me if I'm weird posting tonight...
too many drinks at the graduation party..

LOL


Cheryl
DRAGON BEADS
Flameworked beads and glass
http://www.dragonbeads.com/

I'm as boggled as you are. I love my daughters but they would stay home. I
flat out don't want them in Vegas. Hell, I'm 35 and just now think I might
be old enough to go and behave.

"Kalera Stratton" wrote in message
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boggle WHO takes a baby to Las Vegas??? And WHY???

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


Dr. Sooz wrote:

Yup.

In Vegas, we went to a Cirque de Soleil show called "Mystere". CdS is
pretty
overwhelming and intense, though beautiful. I was annoyed to see that
people
showed up late for the show -- which includes performers *in* the
audience.
Showing up late is kind of like jumping onstage. Really rude.

There was a tiny little girl there with her parents -- and in the 2nd
row! She
started to wail about 5 minutes into the show. Really scream. Her
daddy had
to carry her out of the theater -- winding his way among performers who
were
doing things that required no distraction in order to keep the players
safe!
It was madness.

The stupid thing -- after that, he came BACK IN with the child. More
screaming. Out again. Back in. Out again. I thought the ushers --
who have
a more-difficult job than most theater ushers do -- were going to have a
stroke. Finally he came back in and sat way back in the theater, up in
the
back rows.

What the hell were those parents thinking? And if his daughter was
going to
scream repeatedly, why didn't he stay out of the theater? (There were
dozens
of things to do out there -- it wasn't simply a theater lobby, but
stores, ice
cream fountain, casino lights, lots of entertaining stuff.) Sure, the
poor,
poor guy had paid around $100 for his ticket. (And his daughter's.)
But so
had WE. Everyone in the theater had paid at least $100 per ticket. Not
only
that, but the slightest misstep in a performance could mean death to the
performer.

This tiny child was way too young to be there, period. Even
Kevin-The-Generous-Soul and Child-Adorer was miffed. It was just plain
dumb.
~~
Sooz
-------
"Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry."
John
Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance
~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html