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Old September 16th 04, 12:37 PM
John Atkinson
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"willdereck" wrote ...

Harlan Messinger wrote...


(Igor Sklar) wrote:

There is another Polish/Russian word which has veery distant Chinese

roots:

Pol. farfura ('porcelain'), Russ. farfor
- Turk. farfur - Pers/Arab fagfur
('a Chinese province, a title of Chinese emperor')
- Old Pers. bagapura, translated from
Chin. tien-tse ('son of Heaven') [Vasmer, IV, 186-187]


A translation isn't a loan word. So it's a loan word from Turkish, but
not from Chinese.


I found the word in Romanian language - farfuria "plate". Romanians
are the descendants of Dacians Thracians, the ancient inhabitants of
the Balkan Peninsula and parts of Anatolia (Homer, Herodotus, Tacitus,
Strabo, etc). They are speaking a Romance language.


And of course, Romanian borrowed quite a few words from Turkish in the days
of the Ottomans

J.


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