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lucille June 14th 10 09:27 PM

Corbett v Nicoletti
 
The Nora Corbett cross stitch fairy in today's 1-2-3 newsletter reminded me
way too much of Lynn Nicoletti's delightful Thimbelina. Thimbelina hangs
proudly on my den wall and she's innovative and clever and lots of fun.
This one looks to me like a rip-off, but not quite. Is there some kind of
law that states you can't use someone else's design and call it your own?

This is Nora Corbett's version:
http://www.123stitch.com/cgi-perl/it...item=MIR-KIT12


This one is Lynn Nicoletti's version:
http://www.lynnenicoletti.com/largerthimbelina.html

Doesn't look like a coincidence to me but I'm not very well versed on copy
write laws.

Lucille



Jenn Ridley June 14th 10 10:06 PM

Corbett v Nicoletti
 
"Lucille" wrote:

The Nora Corbett cross stitch fairy in today's 1-2-3 newsletter reminded me
way too much of Lynn Nicoletti's delightful Thimbelina. Thimbelina hangs
proudly on my den wall and she's innovative and clever and lots of fun.
This one looks to me like a rip-off, but not quite. Is there some kind of
law that states you can't use someone else's design and call it your own?


Copyright doesn't really apply in this case, because you cannot
copyright the idea of a fairy sitting on a purple pincushion.

Those two patterns have far too many differences to be considered
infringing. Sure, there are some similarities, but how many different
ways *can* you do a fairy on a pincushion, after all? And Nora's
cartainly goes with the other fairies in the Stitching Fairies series,
which are less elaborate than most of her fairies.
(http://www.123stitch.com/cgi-perl/itemdetail.pl?item=MIR-KIT11 is
the Floss Fairy.)

(IMO, Passion Ricamo has done far more faithful "copies" of Nora's
stuff, and many retailers sell both.)

--
Jenn Ridley :


Ellice K. June 15th 10 01:25 AM

Corbett v Nicoletti
 
On 6/14/10 4:27 PM, in article ,
"Lucille" wrote:

The Nora Corbett cross stitch fairy in today's 1-2-3 newsletter reminded me
way too much of Lynn Nicoletti's delightful Thimbelina. Thimbelina hangs
proudly on my den wall and she's innovative and clever and lots of fun.
This one looks to me like a rip-off, but not quite. Is there some kind of
law that states you can't use someone else's design and call it your own?

This is Nora Corbett's version:
http://www.123stitch.com/cgi-perl/it...item=MIR-KIT12


This one is Lynn Nicoletti's version:
http://www.lynnenicoletti.com/largerthimbelina.html

Doesn't look like a coincidence to me but I'm not very well versed on copy
write laws.

Lucille


Hmmm- interesting. Personally, I think Lynn's version is much cleverer.
And while I like some of Nora Corbett's things, originality is not her
hallmark. In that many of her designs are essentially the same basic form,
with a slight tweak of a dress, or flower, etc. And they all have the same
face. It is strikingly similar, but it's something that Lynn would have to
pursue. To not be in copyright violation you have to be able to show the
source of your idea, design development, etc. Something like this - well,
it's probably different enough - although the purple tuffet is quite the
copy - that going after Ms. Corbett wouldn't go far. OTOH, people like
yourself notice this, and word gets around - so it's not a great thing for
one's reputation. OTOH - benefit of the doubt would be to say that maybe
she saw Lynn's and had the design subliminally present when doing her own.
Who knows.

All I can say for sure is that when an artist is accused of copying someone
else's design, or being very derivative of another's work -without
permission - then in order to prove your ownership of this supposed new
original design all the material that gave rise to the design is the
evidence. Which is why in working on original stuff I've been told to be
able to show my source of inspiration and working sketches, etc as the
design was developed.

Good get. Ah, well - who knows.

Ellice


Dianne Lewandowski June 15th 10 02:30 PM

Corbett v Nicoletti
 
I agree completely with Jenn. They are two different designs.

Dianne

On 6/14/2010 4:06 PM, Jenn Ridley wrote:
wrote:

The Nora Corbett cross stitch fairy in today's 1-2-3 newsletter reminded me
way too much of Lynn Nicoletti's delightful Thimbelina. Thimbelina hangs
proudly on my den wall and she's innovative and clever and lots of fun.
This one looks to me like a rip-off, but not quite. Is there some kind of
law that states you can't use someone else's design and call it your own?


Copyright doesn't really apply in this case, because you cannot
copyright the idea of a fairy sitting on a purple pincushion.

Those two patterns have far too many differences to be considered
infringing. Sure, there are some similarities, but how many different
ways *can* you do a fairy on a pincushion, after all? And Nora's
cartainly goes with the other fairies in the Stitching Fairies series,
which are less elaborate than most of her fairies.
(http://www.123stitch.com/cgi-perl/itemdetail.pl?item=MIR-KIT11 is
the Floss Fairy.)

(IMO, Passion Ricamo has done far more faithful "copies" of Nora's
stuff, and many retailers sell both.)

--
Jenn Ridley :



Teri June 17th 10 01:59 AM

Corbett v Nicoletti
 
It's just like an author being inspired by another author's book or
poem. Being inspired by something isn't the same thing as copying
it. Those are definitely two very different fairies.

Teri


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