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elderberry22 September 2nd 06 10:11 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
Hi, I am thinking about making the pattern "Tinkle, a Cat" from the
book by Brande Ormond, _American Primitives in Needlepoint_. But when
I look at the Paternayan yarn numbers, they are so different! This
calls for quite a lot of Dark Red #201, but when I look at color
charts, 201 is quite a shade of grey! Is there any way to convert
these numbers? I have googled it and had no luck at all.


bungadora September 2nd 06 10:57 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
You aren't mixing up Paterna and Paternayan are you? One's British, the
other American. Most of the colors are the same, but some are
different.
Dora
elderberry22 wrote:
Hi, I am thinking about making the pattern "Tinkle, a Cat" from the
book by Brande Ormond, _American Primitives in Needlepoint_. But when
I look at the Paternayan yarn numbers, they are so different! This
calls for quite a lot of Dark Red #201, but when I look at color
charts, 201 is quite a shade of grey! Is there any way to convert
these numbers? I have googled it and had no luck at all.



elderberry22 September 2nd 06 11:17 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 

bungadora wrote:
You aren't mixing up Paterna and Paternayan are you? One's British, the
other American. Most of the colors are the same, but some are
different.
Dora
elderberry22 wrote:
Hi, I am thinking about making the pattern "Tinkle, a Cat" from the
book by Brande Ormond, _American Primitives in Needlepoint_. But when
I look at the Paternayan yarn numbers, they are so different! This
calls for quite a lot of Dark Red #201, but when I look at color
charts, 201 is quite a shade of grey! Is there any way to convert
these numbers? I have googled it and had no luck at all.


It's an American book & I'm _pretty_ sure it says Paternayan for the
yarn. Will check.
-----------------------
Yes, Paternayan. but like I said, when I look at the color charts
online, some of the colors aren't even there, and the ones that are,
are just different. Gray, instead of red. that kind of thing.


Brenda Lewis September 2nd 06 11:26 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
elderberry22 wrote:
bungadora wrote:

You aren't mixing up Paterna and Paternayan are you? One's British, the
other American. Most of the colors are the same, but some are
different.
Dora
elderberry22 wrote:

Hi, I am thinking about making the pattern "Tinkle, a Cat" from the
book by Brande Ormond, _American Primitives in Needlepoint_. But when
I look at the Paternayan yarn numbers, they are so different! This
calls for quite a lot of Dark Red #201, but when I look at color
charts, 201 is quite a shade of grey! Is there any way to convert
these numbers? I have googled it and had no luck at all.



It's an American book & I'm _pretty_ sure it says Paternayan for the
yarn. Will check.
-----------------------
Yes, Paternayan. but like I said, when I look at the color charts
online, some of the colors aren't even there, and the ones that are,
are just different. Gray, instead of red. that kind of thing.


Perhaps the publisher mixed the lines up somehow. Might be worth
checking out a Paterna color chart just in case.

--
Brenda
Help Project Gutenberg--become a Distributed Proofreader
http://www.pgdp.net/

bungadora September 2nd 06 11:32 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
I did a bit more research.
Your book was published in 1977. Paternayan colors changed some time in
the 1980's I think, so you should be looking for a conversion chart of
the old to new Paternayan colors. From what I've read the company never
issued a conversion chart although I think there were conversion charts
published by other parties. Some magazine called Needlepoint News
published one, according to a google of this group.
Dora

elderberry22 wrote:
bungadora wrote:
You aren't mixing up Paterna and Paternayan are you? One's British, the
other American. Most of the colors are the same, but some are
different.
Dora
elderberry22 wrote:
Hi, I am thinking about making the pattern "Tinkle, a Cat" from the
book by Brande Ormond, _American Primitives in Needlepoint_. But when
I look at the Paternayan yarn numbers, they are so different! This
calls for quite a lot of Dark Red #201, but when I look at color
charts, 201 is quite a shade of grey! Is there any way to convert
these numbers? I have googled it and had no luck at all.


It's an American book & I'm _pretty_ sure it says Paternayan for the
yarn. Will check.
-----------------------
Yes, Paternayan. but like I said, when I look at the color charts
online, some of the colors aren't even there, and the ones that are,
are just different. Gray, instead of red. that kind of thing.



bungadora September 3rd 06 12:04 AM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 

As a followup, the only reference I have been able to find to a
conversion chart was Needlepoint News, March-April 1982. Otherwise a
google search suggested contacting JCA. Their website is
http://www.jcacrafts.com/index.php/

I think I'll do some needlepoint now.
Dora


elderberry22 September 3rd 06 02:39 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 

bungadora wrote:
As a followup, the only reference I have been able to find to a
conversion chart was Needlepoint News, March-April 1982. Otherwise a
google search suggested contacting JCA. Their website is
http://www.jcacrafts.com/index.php/

I think I'll do some needlepoint now.
Dora


Thank you VERY MUCH. I was able to buy a copy of this magazine on
eBay. Now if I can just figure out how much yarn, I will be set.


bungadora September 3rd 06 04:04 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
Glad to help. I might contact JCA myself, just to find out whether
they ever produced their own conversion chart. Some of the comments on
google seemed to indicate that they did not. Kind of odd it isn't
easier to find.

Dora
http://www.picturetrail.com/bungadora


elderberry22 wrote:
bungadora wrote:
As a followup, the only reference I have been able to find to a
conversion chart was Needlepoint News, March-April 1982. Otherwise a
google search suggested contacting JCA. Their website is
http://www.jcacrafts.com/index.php/

I think I'll do some needlepoint now.
Dora


Thank you VERY MUCH. I was able to buy a copy of this magazine on
eBay. Now if I can just figure out how much yarn, I will be set.



[email protected] September 5th 06 08:59 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 

bungadora wrote:
Glad to help. I might contact JCA myself, just to find out whether
they ever produced their own conversion chart.


I have a paper chart of the US Paternayan yarns dated about 1990. The
back page has the conversion from OLD Paternayan to NEW Paternayan.
This paper chart is not handy or I would scan it and email the scan.
But it did originate with JCA.

And the difference between US Paternayan and UK Paterna is that some of
those lovely colours that used to be available in the US are still
available in the UK. The UK have different numbers and no comparison
is perfect--I got a shade card from Sew Exciting in the UK for a
reasonable sum.

Good luck with the needlework--Irene


Susanne Hackbarth September 6th 06 02:33 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
What luck! I was hoping to find someone on this newsgroup that might know if
these Paternayan numbers have changed. I was looking for #520, for an OLD
1976 project I am working on. No. 520 is a Teal Blue shade now and the color
I need is green, which looks like #630. Thank you! This project is one of
3 President's wives; Martha Washington, Julia Tyler and Sara Jackson, from a
McCall's magazine.

Susanne

"elderberry22" wrote in message
ps.com...
Hi, I am thinking about making the pattern "Tinkle, a Cat" from the
book by Brande Ormond, _American Primitives in Needlepoint_. But when
I look at the Paternayan yarn numbers, they are so different! This
calls for quite a lot of Dark Red #201, but when I look at color
charts, 201 is quite a shade of grey! Is there any way to convert
these numbers? I have googled it and had no luck at all.




bungadora September 6th 06 02:45 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
The dolls? I remember that one.
Dora

Susanne Hackbarth wrote:
What luck! I was hoping to find someone on this newsgroup that might know if
these Paternayan numbers have changed. I was looking for #520, for an OLD
1976 project I am working on. No. 520 is a Teal Blue shade now and the color
I need is green, which looks like #630. Thank you! This project is one of
3 President's wives; Martha Washington, Julia Tyler and Sara Jackson, from a
McCall's magazine.

Susanne

"elderberry22" wrote in message
ps.com...
Hi, I am thinking about making the pattern "Tinkle, a Cat" from the
book by Brande Ormond, _American Primitives in Needlepoint_. But when
I look at the Paternayan yarn numbers, they are so different! This
calls for quite a lot of Dark Red #201, but when I look at color
charts, 201 is quite a shade of grey! Is there any way to convert
these numbers? I have googled it and had no luck at all.



Susanne Hackbarth September 6th 06 03:28 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 

"bungadora" wrote in message
oups.com...
The dolls? I remember that one.
Dora

Yes, to the Dolls, what a good memory! I wish I had all three finished
after all these years. I only have a few rows of the green at the very
bottom to finish, and then the braid wrapped around the top of her head. I
just noticed the top of her head should have been done in continental
stitch. Maybe when it is washed and blocked it won't be distorted? I might
just frame this rather than make the doll.

Susanne





bungadora September 6th 06 08:08 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
Ah well. A bit of distortion is almost a given with continental. I
think the degree depends on the quality of the canvas and the frame.
Long stitch is nice that way. Almost no distortion.

I always wondered how well those dolls would stand up as a 3D. McCalls
used to publish and re-publish patterns later in special editions, and
I think that is where I have that pattern. I'll have to take a look
later to see if I still have it, or whether I disposed of it in one of
my ruthless cleaning streaks.
Dora
http://www.picturetrail.com/bungadora

Susanne Hackbarth wrote:
"bungadora" wrote in message
oups.com...
The dolls? I remember that one.
Dora

Yes, to the Dolls, what a good memory! I wish I had all three finished
after all these years. I only have a few rows of the green at the very
bottom to finish, and then the braid wrapped around the top of her head. I
just noticed the top of her head should have been done in continental
stitch. Maybe when it is washed and blocked it won't be distorted? I might
just frame this rather than make the doll.

Susanne



elderberry22 September 10th 06 03:55 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 

bungadora wrote:
Ah well. A bit of distortion is almost a given with continental. I
think the degree depends on the quality of the canvas and the frame.
Long stitch is nice that way. Almost no distortion.

I always wondered how well those dolls would stand up as a 3D. McCalls
used to publish and re-publish patterns later in special editions, and
I think that is where I have that pattern. I'll have to take a look
later to see if I still have it, or whether I disposed of it in one of
my ruthless cleaning streaks.
Dora
http://www.picturetrail.com/bungadora

Susanne Hackbarth wrote:
"bungadora" wrote in message
oups.com...
The dolls? I remember that one.
Dora

Yes, to the Dolls, what a good memory! I wish I had all three finished
after all these years. I only have a few rows of the green at the very
bottom to finish, and then the braid wrapped around the top of her head. I
just noticed the top of her head should have been done in continental
stitch. Maybe when it is washed and blocked it won't be distorted? I might
just frame this rather than make the doll.

Susanne


Got my magazine. Old 520= New 611. Hope this helps.


Susanne Hackbarth September 11th 06 03:16 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
Yes, to the Dolls, what a good memory! I wish I had all three finished
after all these years. I only have a few rows of the green at the very
bottom to finish, and then the braid wrapped around the top of her head.
I
just noticed the top of her head should have been done in continental
stitch. Maybe when it is washed and blocked it won't be distorted? I
might
just frame this rather than make the doll.


"elderberry22" wrote in message
ups.com...

Got my magazine. Old 520= New 611. Hope this helps.

Dora: THANK YOU very much. That helps a lot! I just checked a website
http://www.discountneedlework.com/paternayan_yarn.aspx . I have been trying
different kinds of green yarn, but haven't liked the results. Would you mind
checking the #104-Brown to see what number it has changed to. Then I will
call and order these. Two Emb. shops in this town and neither one has
Paternayan yarn.

Thank you again for your help, Susanne



bungadora September 11th 06 04:24 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
Nope, not me. Elderberry just got her magazine from E-bay and she
checked it for you, nice lady.
I took a look at the pattern though very cute, although my copy has the
old numbers.
Dora

Got my magazine. Old 520= New 611. Hope this helps.

Dora: THANK YOU very much. That helps a lot! I just checked a website
http://www.discountneedlework.com/paternayan_yarn.aspx . I have been trying
different kinds of green yarn, but haven't liked the results. Would you mind
checking the #104-Brown to see what number it has changed to. Then I will
call and order these. Two Emb. shops in this town and neither one has
Paternayan yarn.

Thank you again for your help, Susanne



elderberry22 September 15th 06 12:05 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 

bungadora wrote:
Nope, not me. Elderberry just got her magazine from E-bay and she
checked it for you, nice lady.
I took a look at the pattern though very cute, although my copy has the
old numbers.
Dora

Got my magazine. Old 520= New 611. Hope this helps.

Dora: THANK YOU very much. That helps a lot! I just checked a website
http://www.discountneedlework.com/paternayan_yarn.aspx . I have been trying
different kinds of green yarn, but haven't liked the results. Would you mind
checking the #104-Brown to see what number it has changed to. Then I will
call and order these. Two Emb. shops in this town and neither one has
Paternayan yarn.

Thank you again for your help, Susanne


Old 104 = New 440.


smj September 15th 06 09:38 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
I have a Paternayan card that has samples of each color and a
conversion chart for Elsa Williams Tapestry yarn. By checking the
earlier messages, I see that it has the newer color numbers. The card
has five pages of samples and folds in on itself to protect the yarn -
all 405 small samples.

Because I have a number of early 1970s books, particularly bargello
ones, I would like to obtain a copy of the Paternayan conversion chart.
Would anyone who has it be willing to scan it? Or if you would send
me a scan or copy, I would create an Excel spreadsheet that has the
conversions and send it to anyone who wanted it.

Thanks in advance,
Susan in Seattle


wrote:
bungadora wrote:
Glad to help. I might contact JCA myself, just to find out whether
they ever produced their own conversion chart.


I have a paper chart of the US Paternayan yarns dated about 1990. The
back page has the conversion from OLD Paternayan to NEW Paternayan.
This paper chart is not handy or I would scan it and email the scan.
But it did originate with JCA.

And the difference between US Paternayan and UK Paterna is that some of
those lovely colours that used to be available in the US are still
available in the UK. The UK have different numbers and no comparison
is perfect--I got a shade card from Sew Exciting in the UK for a
reasonable sum.

Good luck with the needlework--Irene



bungadora September 15th 06 11:48 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
I tried writing JCA about a week ago and haven't had an answer yet on
whether they still have a chart available or not. If I don't hear back
from them next week, I'll try writing again. If not, and if you succeed
in your enterprise I'd like to have a copy.

I also have a few 1970's patterns I wouldn't mind decoding,
particularly a book on Persian rug designs. Mind you, if I haven't been
able to get around to them after nearly 30 years there's a good chance
I never will.

Dora

smj wrote:
I have a Paternayan card that has samples of each color and a
conversion chart for Elsa Williams Tapestry yarn. By checking the
earlier messages, I see that it has the newer color numbers. The card
has five pages of samples and folds in on itself to protect the yarn -
all 405 small samples.

Because I have a number of early 1970s books, particularly bargello
ones, I would like to obtain a copy of the Paternayan conversion chart.
Would anyone who has it be willing to scan it? Or if you would send
me a scan or copy, I would create an Excel spreadsheet that has the
conversions and send it to anyone who wanted it.

Thanks in advance,
Susan in Seattle


wrote:
bungadora wrote:
Glad to help. I might contact JCA myself, just to find out whether
they ever produced their own conversion chart.


I have a paper chart of the US Paternayan yarns dated about 1990. The
back page has the conversion from OLD Paternayan to NEW Paternayan.
This paper chart is not handy or I would scan it and email the scan.
But it did originate with JCA.

And the difference between US Paternayan and UK Paterna is that some of
those lovely colours that used to be available in the US are still
available in the UK. The UK have different numbers and no comparison
is perfect--I got a shade card from Sew Exciting in the UK for a
reasonable sum.

Good luck with the needlework--Irene



elderberry22 September 16th 06 06:52 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 

bungadora wrote:
I tried writing JCA about a week ago and haven't had an answer yet on
whether they still have a chart available or not. If I don't hear back
from them next week, I'll try writing again. If not, and if you succeed
in your enterprise I'd like to have a copy.

I also have a few 1970's patterns I wouldn't mind decoding,
particularly a book on Persian rug designs. Mind you, if I haven't been
able to get around to them after nearly 30 years there's a good chance
I never will.

Dora

smj wrote:
I have a Paternayan card that has samples of each color and a
conversion chart for Elsa Williams Tapestry yarn. By checking the
earlier messages, I see that it has the newer color numbers. The card
has five pages of samples and folds in on itself to protect the yarn -
all 405 small samples.


I don't have a scanner, but I can just type them in a few at a time &
hope for not too many typos!

Old=New
001=260
005=261
010=262
011-256
012-263
014-327
015-756
017-246
020-465
025-462
026-948
032-236
040-716
050-220


And that is all the zeros. Will try to do more later.
Because I have a number of early 1970s books, particularly bargello
ones, I would like to obtain a copy of the Paternayan conversion chart.
Would anyone who has it be willing to scan it? Or if you would send
me a scan or copy, I would create an Excel spreadsheet that has the
conversions and send it to anyone who wanted it.

Thanks in advance,
Susan in Seattle


wrote:
bungadora wrote:
Glad to help. I might contact JCA myself, just to find out whether
they ever produced their own conversion chart.

I have a paper chart of the US Paternayan yarns dated about 1990. The
back page has the conversion from OLD Paternayan to NEW Paternayan.
This paper chart is not handy or I would scan it and email the scan.
But it did originate with JCA.

And the difference between US Paternayan and UK Paterna is that some of
those lovely colours that used to be available in the US are still
available in the UK. The UK have different numbers and no comparison
is perfect--I got a shade card from Sew Exciting in the UK for a
reasonable sum.

Good luck with the needlework--Irene



Karen Dixon, Millennia Designs September 17th 06 08:52 AM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
I am afraid UK Paterna is no more. The Craft Collection who
manufactured it under license gave up earlier in the year. UK stitchers
will have to swap to imported US Paternayan.

It is not all doom and gloom though. The US range has shades not in the
UK range, many of which are very similar to the old UK 'D' numbers. We
manufacture a range of kits using Paterna, including Jill Gordon's
designs, so we have just had a major exercise to swap over!

Cheers,

Karen Dixon
www.millennia-designs.com

wrote:
bungadora wrote:
Glad to help. I might contact JCA myself, just to find out whether
they ever produced their own conversion chart.


I have a paper chart of the US Paternayan yarns dated about 1990. The
back page has the conversion from OLD Paternayan to NEW Paternayan.
This paper chart is not handy or I would scan it and email the scan.
But it did originate with JCA.

And the difference between US Paternayan and UK Paterna is that some of
those lovely colours that used to be available in the US are still
available in the UK. The UK have different numbers and no comparison
is perfect--I got a shade card from Sew Exciting in the UK for a
reasonable sum.

Good luck with the needlework--Irene



smj September 17th 06 06:30 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
elderberry22,

I have entered your '0s' in a spreadsheet: Old2New, and New2Old. When
you finish publishing them I will be glad to send the spreadsheet on to
any who request it. Thanks for taking the time to type them in.

Susan in Seattle


I don't have a scanner, but I can just type them in a few at a time &
hope for not too many typos!

Old=New
001=260
005=261
010=262
011-256
012-263
014-327
015-756
017-246
020-465
025-462
026-948
032-236
040-716
050-220


And that is all the zeros. Will try to do more later.



bungadora September 17th 06 10:56 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
Thanks for doing this elderberry.
Dora

elderberry22 wrote:
I don't have a scanner, but I can just type them in a few at a time &
hope for not too many typos!

Old=New
001=260
005=261
010=262
011-256
012-263
014-327
015-756
017-246
020-465
025-462
026-948
032-236
040-716
050-220


And that is all the zeros. Will try to do more later.
Because I have a number of early 1970s books, particularly bargello
ones, I would like to obtain a copy of the Paternayan conversion chart.
Would anyone who has it be willing to scan it? Or if you would send
me a scan or copy, I would create an Excel spreadsheet that has the
conversions and send it to anyone who wanted it.

Thanks in advance,
Susan in Seattle


wrote:
bungadora wrote:
Glad to help. I might contact JCA myself, just to find out whether
they ever produced their own conversion chart.

I have a paper chart of the US Paternayan yarns dated about 1990. The
back page has the conversion from OLD Paternayan to NEW Paternayan.
This paper chart is not handy or I would scan it and email the scan.
But it did originate with JCA.

And the difference between US Paternayan and UK Paterna is that some of
those lovely colours that used to be available in the US are still
available in the UK. The UK have different numbers and no comparison
is perfect--I got a shade card from Sew Exciting in the UK for a
reasonable sum.

Good luck with the needlework--Irene



elderberry22 September 19th 06 01:38 AM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 

bungadora wrote:
Thanks for doing this elderberry.
Dora

elderberry22 wrote:
I don't have a scanner, but I can just type them in a few at a time &
hope for not too many typos!

Old=New
001=260
005=261
010=262
011-256
012-263
014-327
015-756
017-246
020-465
025-462
026-948
032-236
040-716
050-220


And that is all the zeros. Will try to do more later.
Because I have a number of early 1970s books, particularly bargello
ones, I would like to obtain a copy of the Paternayan conversion chart.
Would anyone who has it be willing to scan it? Or if you would send
me a scan or copy, I would create an Excel spreadsheet that has the
conversions and send it to anyone who wanted it.

Thanks in advance,
Susan in Seattle


wrote:
bungadora wrote:
Glad to help. I might contact JCA myself, just to find out whether
they ever produced their own conversion chart.

I have a paper chart of the US Paternayan yarns dated about 1990. The
back page has the conversion from OLD Paternayan to NEW Paternayan.
This paper chart is not handy or I would scan it and email the scan.
But it did originate with JCA.

And the difference between US Paternayan and UK Paterna is that some of
those lovely colours that used to be available in the US are still
available in the UK. The UK have different numbers and no comparison
is perfect--I got a shade card from Sew Exciting in the UK for a
reasonable sum.

Good luck with the needlework--Irene


104-440
105-420
108-221
110-421
112-DISC
113-422
114-450
115-DISC
116-470
117-DISC
120-460
123-DISC
124-452
126-472
127-DISC
131-DISC
132-473
133-DISC
134-453
136-454
137-DISC
138-474
140-424
143-DISC
144-410
145-441
147-DISC
More later.....


elderberry22 October 9th 06 06:08 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 

elderberry22 wrote:
bungadora wrote:
Thanks for doing this elderberry.
Dora

elderberry22 wrote:
I don't have a scanner, but I can just type them in a few at a time &
hope for not too many typos!

Old=New
001=260
005=261
010=262
011-256
012-263
014-327
015-756
017-246
020-465
025-462


026-948
032-236
040-716
050-220


And that is all the zeros. Will try to do more later.
Because I have a number of early 1970s books, particularly bargello
ones, I would like to obtain a copy of the Paternayan conversion chart.
Would anyone who has it be willing to scan it? Or if you would send
me a scan or copy, I would create an Excel spreadsheet that has the
conversions and send it to anyone who wanted it.

Thanks in advance,
Susan in Seattle


wrote:
bungadora wrote:
Glad to help. I might contact JCA myself, just to find out whether
they ever produced their own conversion chart.

I have a paper chart of the US Paternayan yarns dated about 1990. The
back page has the conversion from OLD Paternayan to NEW Paternayan.
This paper chart is not handy or I would scan it and email the scan.
But it did originate with JCA.

And the difference between US Paternayan and UK Paterna is that some of
those lovely colours that used to be available in the US are still
available in the UK. The UK have different numbers and no comparison
is perfect--I got a shade card from Sew Exciting in the UK for a
reasonable sum.

Good luck with the needlework--Irene


104-440
105-420
108-221
110-421
112-DISC
113-422
114-450
115-DISC
116-470
117-DISC
120-460
123-DISC
124-452
126-472
127-DISC
131-DISC
132-473
133-DISC
134-453
136-454
137-DISC
138-474
140-424
143-DISC
144-410
145-441
147-DISC
More later.....


Welll, here it is later, and here is some mo
------------------------------------------
153=475
154=411
162=200
164=202
166=203
168=204
172=412
174=413
180=210
182=211
184=212
186=213
194=414
200=971
201=920
202=972
203=DISC
204=DISC
205=DISC
207=DISC
210=930
211=DISC
213=950
215=861
217=401
220=DISC
221=DISC
223=911
225=862
227=DISC
228=DISC
229=DISC
230=951
231=902
232=903
234=DISC
236=900
238=952
240=840
242=841
243=953
245=931
247=402
248=403
249=404
250=912
254=914
255=932
256=915
257=405
260=933
262=921
265=934
266=870
267=860
269=871
271=406
273=863
274=872
275=DISC
278=864
280=873
281=DISC
282=904
283=922
284=865
285=923
286=874
287=875
288=905
289=913
294=924
295=320
304=DISC
305=570


bungadora October 9th 06 07:39 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
I thought maybe you were lost. But thanks again. By the way I wrote the
company but never heard back from them.
Dora
elderberry22 wrote:
elderberry22 wrote:
bungadora wrote:
Thanks for doing this elderberry.
Dora

elderberry22 wrote:
I don't have a scanner, but I can just type them in a few at a time &
hope for not too many typos!

Old=New
001=260
005=261
010=262
011-256
012-263
014-327
015-756
017-246
020-465
025-462


026-948
032-236
040-716
050-220


And that is all the zeros. Will try to do more later.
Because I have a number of early 1970s books, particularly bargello
ones, I would like to obtain a copy of the Paternayan conversion chart.
Would anyone who has it be willing to scan it? Or if you would send
me a scan or copy, I would create an Excel spreadsheet that has the
conversions and send it to anyone who wanted it.

Thanks in advance,
Susan in Seattle


wrote:
bungadora wrote:
Glad to help. I might contact JCA myself, just to find out whether
they ever produced their own conversion chart.

I have a paper chart of the US Paternayan yarns dated about 1990. The
back page has the conversion from OLD Paternayan to NEW Paternayan.
This paper chart is not handy or I would scan it and email the scan.
But it did originate with JCA.

And the difference between US Paternayan and UK Paterna is that some of
those lovely colours that used to be available in the US are still
available in the UK. The UK have different numbers and no comparison
is perfect--I got a shade card from Sew Exciting in the UK for a
reasonable sum.

Good luck with the needlework--Irene


104-440
105-420
108-221
110-421
112-DISC
113-422
114-450
115-DISC
116-470
117-DISC
120-460
123-DISC
124-452
126-472
127-DISC
131-DISC
132-473
133-DISC
134-453
136-454
137-DISC
138-474
140-424
143-DISC
144-410
145-441
147-DISC
More later.....


Welll, here it is later, and here is some mo
------------------------------------------
153=475
154=411
162=200
164=202
166=203
168=204
172=412
174=413
180=210
182=211
184=212
186=213
194=414
200=971
201=920
202=972
203=DISC
204=DISC
205=DISC
207=DISC
210=930
211=DISC
213=950
215=861
217=401
220=DISC
221=DISC
223=911
225=862
227=DISC
228=DISC
229=DISC
230=951
231=902
232=903
234=DISC
236=900
238=952
240=840
242=841
243=953
245=931
247=402
248=403
249=404
250=912
254=914
255=932
256=915
257=405
260=933
262=921
265=934
266=870
267=860
269=871
271=406
273=863
274=872
275=DISC
278=864
280=873
281=DISC
282=904
283=922
284=865
285=923
286=874
287=875
288=905
289=913
294=924
295=320
304=DISC
305=570



[email protected] October 9th 06 07:41 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
There is a conversion chart at http://makeashorterlink.com/?X5CE24EED
And what looks like a handy page at
http://www.fibergypsy.com/threadlist/index.shtml
Don't know if it is what you need but it may help
--
Bruce Fletcher
btinternetDOTcomATricardian
Stronsay, Orkney
www.stronsay.co.uk/claremont
"Why does mineral water that has been stored underground for thousands
of years have a 'use by' date?"

bungadora October 9th 06 07:53 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
Thanks, but the conversion we're doing in this case are the old
Paternayan numbers (pre 1982) to post 1982 numbers, to a certain point
of course. I'm sure they introduced new colors after the chart was
published.
Dora
wrote:
There is a conversion chart at http://makeashorterlink.com/?X5CE24EED
And what looks like a handy page at
http://www.fibergypsy.com/threadlist/index.shtml
Don't know if it is what you need but it may help
--
Bruce Fletcher
btinternetDOTcomATricardian
Stronsay, Orkney
www.stronsay.co.uk/claremont
"Why does mineral water that has been stored underground for thousands
of years have a 'use by' date?"



elderberry22 October 13th 06 03:18 AM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
306=disc
308=disc
310=disc
311=510
312=disc
314=511
318=disc
321=571
322=disc
323=disc
330=502
334=501
340=520
342=522
346=disc
350=disc
352=523
354=524
355=disc
365=500
367=521
380=512
381=513
382=514
385=503
386=504
389=disc
391=disc
392=disc
395=505
396=506
more to follow..................


elderberry22 November 10th 06 05:03 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
Here's some mo
400-770
401-771
402-772
403-DISC
404-DISC
405-DISC
406-DISC
408-DISC
409-DISC
410-DISC
411-DISC
414-881
416-883
419-DISC
420-DISC
423-DISC
424-800
425-DISC
426-884
427-701
430-DISC

elderberry22 wrote:
306=disc
308=disc
310=disc
311=510
312=disc
314=511
318=disc
321=571
322=disc
323=disc
330=502
334=501
340=520
342=522
346=disc
350=disc
352=523
354=524
355=disc
365=500
367=521
380=512
381=513
382=514
385=503
386=504
389=disc
391=disc
392=disc
395=505
396=506
more to follow..................



Meg February 6th 15 03:44 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
replying to elderberry22, Meg wrote:
elderberry22 wrote:


bungadora wrote:
As a followup, the only reference I have been able to find to a
conversion chart was Needlepoint News, March-April 1982. Otherwise

a
google search suggested contacting JCA. Their website is
http://www.jcacrafts.com/index.php/

I think I'll do some needlepoint now.
Dora


Thank you VERY MUCH. I was able to buy a copy of this magazine on
eBay. Now if I can just figure out how much yarn, I will be set.


Hi,

I have this same book and am wanting to do Chilly Observation. Did the
magazine you purchased help with the conversion of colors? If so, are you
willing to share? Thank you!

Meg

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[email protected] October 13th 17 06:58 PM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
On Friday, November 10, 2006 at 5:03:25 PM UTC, elderberry22 wrote:
Here's some mo
400-770
401-771
402-772
403-DISC
404-DISC
405-DISC
406-DISC
408-DISC
409-DISC
410-DISC
411-DISC
414-881
416-883
419-DISC
420-DISC
423-DISC
424-800
425-DISC
426-884
427-701
430-DISC

elderberry22 wrote:
306=disc
308=disc
310=disc
311=510
312=disc
314=511
318=disc
321=571
322=disc
323=disc
330=502
334=501
340=520
342=522
346=disc
350=disc
352=523
354=524
355=disc
365=500
367=521
380=512
381=513
382=514
385=503
386=504
389=disc
391=disc
392=disc
395=505
396=506
more to follow..................


Thank you so much for doing this. I too have been in touch with Saco Dye in Maine, who took over from JCA, without any success. Pure fluke that I came across this Google forum with these 11 year old posts, but I am very happy to have this information.

butchy0 April 27th 18 04:44 AM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
replying to elderberry22, butchy0 wrote:
elderberry22 wrote:



Here's some mo
400-770
401-771
402-772
403-DISC
404-DISC
405-DISC
406-DISC
408-DISC
409-DISC
410-DISC
411-DISC
414-881
416-883
419-DISC
420-DISC
423-DISC
424-800
425-DISC
426-884
427-701
430-DISC

elderberry22 wrote:
306=disc
308=disc
310=disc
311=510
312=disc
314=511
318=disc
321=571
322=disc
323=disc
330=502
334=501
340=520
342=522
346=disc
350=disc
352=523
354=524
355=disc
365=500
367=521
380=512
381=513
382=514
385=503
386=504
389=disc
391=disc
392=disc
395=505
396=506
more to follow..................



I know this thread is 12 years old, but I was hoping it was still active
somehow. Elderberry22 was kindling listing the conversion chart number of old
to new Paternayan yarn colors, but the listing stops with old 430, and the old
numbering system kept going up from there. Was the rest of the conversion
numbers ever listed?


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[email protected] October 18th 18 07:29 AM

Paternayan yarn numbers
 
There is a chart listed on Ebay on heavy card stock. Seller: Centuries of Threads

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 11:44:04 PM UTC-4, butchy0 wrote:
replying to elderberry22, butchy0 wrote:
elderberry22 wrote:



Here's some mo
400-770
401-771
402-772
403-DISC
404-DISC
405-DISC
406-DISC
408-DISC
409-DISC
410-DISC
411-DISC
414-881
416-883
419-DISC
420-DISC
423-DISC
424-800
425-DISC
426-884
427-701
430-DISC

elderberry22 wrote:
306=disc
308=disc
310=disc
311=510
312=disc
314=511
318=disc
321=571
322=disc
323=disc
330=502
334=501
340=520
342=522
346=disc
350=disc
352=523
354=524
355=disc
365=500
367=521
380=512
381=513
382=514
385=503
386=504
389=disc
391=disc
392=disc
395=505
396=506
more to follow..................



I know this thread is 12 years old, but I was hoping it was still active
somehow. Elderberry22 was kindling listing the conversion chart number of old
to new Paternayan yarn colors, but the listing stops with old 430, and the old
numbering system kept going up from there. Was the rest of the conversion
numbers ever listed?


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