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"Colonial House" hats....challenge
I think I can do it..and WITHOUT circular needles, "provisional cast
ons" or DPNs!!!!!! Yes I DO!!!! And...if you folks will give me about 12 days (since I am still finishing my "bee stitch" top..which will take another 2 or 3 days, since I have Bible study tomorrow)...I will SHOW you...and write out the pattern!!!!! Okay....let's say _14_ days. But I KNOW what to do. AND...I doubt seriously ..seriously!.....there were any DPNs in the Colonial days. IN fact...I think I'd just about bank on it. Those folks back then couldn't and wouldn't deal with such details. They were lucky to get any sort of knitting needle at all..and I am pretty sure "double pointed needles" were NOT part of their experience. I think that that system..the DPN... was probably invented MUCH later by people who had idle time and fiddled and played..and found it successful. But NOT in the Colonial times. I think DPNs came along...if I recall correctly...a couple of hundred years later....after the 1600's. What do ya think? You interested?? Emma |
On Tue, 25 May 2004 00:42:35 -0500, Noreen's Knit*che wrote:
DPNs have been around since the 1400's. JM2C, Noreen And I can prove they've been around since at LEAST the 1500's http://www.dabbler.com/ndlwrk/stocking.html LOL, Noreen ~ ~ ~ change n e t to c o m to email me. |
opined thusly:
I think I can do it..and WITHOUT circular needles, "provisional cast ons" or DPNs!!!!!! Yes I DO!!!! And...if you folks will give me about 12 days (since I am still finishing my "bee stitch" top..which will take another 2 or 3 days, since I have Bible study tomorrow)...I will SHOW you...and write out the pattern!!!!! Okay....let's say _14_ days. But I KNOW what to do. AND...I doubt seriously ..seriously!.....there were any DPNs in the Colonial days. IN fact...I think I'd just about bank on it. Those folks back then couldn't and wouldn't deal with such details. They were lucky to get any sort of knitting needle at all..and I am pretty sure "double pointed needles" were NOT part of their experience. I think that that system..the DPN... was probably invented MUCH later by people who had idle time and fiddled and played..and found it successful. But NOT in the Colonial times. I think DPNs came along...if I recall correctly...a couple of hundred years later....after the 1600's. What do ya think? You interested?? Emma There is much documented evidence to support the existence of dpns well before the 17th century. Further, it is entirely likely that tubular knitting was actually the first form of knitting, the purl stitch not coming into existance until the 16th century. A good source of information is "A History of Hand Knitting" by Richard Rutt. -- Regards, --Anne Remove DIESPAMBOTDIE to e-mail Blog Info: http://www.emptycauldron.com/weblog/musings.php http://www.emptycauldron.com/weblog/atom.xml |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the guys had his hat on, and I would
swear that I saw the join in the hat. I think it was knitted flat, and sewn together after. It was a pale colour. -- Star love, Norma PM OES "Sorceress" wrote in message y.com... opined thusly: I think I can do it..and WITHOUT circular needles, "provisional cast ons" or DPNs!!!!!! Yes I DO!!!! And...if you folks will give me about 12 days (since I am still finishing my "bee stitch" top..which will take another 2 or 3 days, since I have Bible study tomorrow)...I will SHOW you...and write out the pattern!!!!! Okay....let's say _14_ days. But I KNOW what to do. AND...I doubt seriously ..seriously!.....there were any DPNs in the Colonial days. IN fact...I think I'd just about bank on it. Those folks back then couldn't and wouldn't deal with such details. They were lucky to get any sort of knitting needle at all..and I am pretty sure "double pointed needles" were NOT part of their experience. I think that that system..the DPN... was probably invented MUCH later by people who had idle time and fiddled and played..and found it successful. But NOT in the Colonial times. I think DPNs came along...if I recall correctly...a couple of hundred years later....after the 1600's. What do ya think? You interested?? Emma There is much documented evidence to support the existence of dpns well before the 17th century. Further, it is entirely likely that tubular knitting was actually the first form of knitting, the purl stitch not coming into existance until the 16th century. A good source of information is "A History of Hand Knitting" by Richard Rutt. -- Regards, --Anne Remove DIESPAMBOTDIE to e-mail Blog Info: http://www.emptycauldron.com/weblog/musings.php http://www.emptycauldron.com/weblog/atom.xml |
Emma,
If you're offering to figure out the pattern, I'd love to see it! All this talk of "provisional cast ons" has given me a headache! Thanks, LauraJ wrote in message ... I think I can do it..and WITHOUT circular needles, "provisional cast ons" or DPNs!!!!!! Yes I DO!!!! And...if you folks will give me about 12 days (since I am still finishing my "bee stitch" top..which will take another 2 or 3 days, since I have Bible study tomorrow)...I will SHOW you...and write out the pattern!!!!! Okay....let's say _14_ days. But I KNOW what to do. AND...I doubt seriously ..seriously!.....there were any DPNs in the Colonial days. IN fact...I think I'd just about bank on it. Those folks back then couldn't and wouldn't deal with such details. They were lucky to get any sort of knitting needle at all..and I am pretty sure "double pointed needles" were NOT part of their experience. I think that that system..the DPN... was probably invented MUCH later by people who had idle time and fiddled and played..and found it successful. But NOT in the Colonial times. I think DPNs came along...if I recall correctly...a couple of hundred years later....after the 1600's. What do ya think? You interested?? Emma |
I've ordered the yarn and think I'll have enough to make at least two. I'll
do the original..with a provisional cast on..and then would love to try your pattern. Since I plan on making a bazillion of these for Christmas, I'll have plenty of time to try any and all patterns. Jill Roseville, CA "Laura J" wrote in message ... Emma, If you're offering to figure out the pattern, I'd love to see it! All this talk of "provisional cast ons" has given me a headache! Thanks, LauraJ wrote in message ... I think I can do it..and WITHOUT circular needles, "provisional cast ons" or DPNs!!!!!! Yes I DO!!!! And...if you folks will give me about 12 days (since I am still finishing my "bee stitch" top..which will take another 2 or 3 days, since I have Bible study tomorrow)...I will SHOW you...and write out the pattern!!!!! Okay....let's say _14_ days. But I KNOW what to do. AND...I doubt seriously ..seriously!.....there were any DPNs in the Colonial days. IN fact...I think I'd just about bank on it. Those folks back then couldn't and wouldn't deal with such details. They were lucky to get any sort of knitting needle at all..and I am pretty sure "double pointed needles" were NOT part of their experience. I think that that system..the DPN... was probably invented MUCH later by people who had idle time and fiddled and played..and found it successful. But NOT in the Colonial times. I think DPNs came along...if I recall correctly...a couple of hundred years later....after the 1600's. What do ya think? You interested?? Emma |
There's an early Renaissance painting of a madonna knitting on DPNs. They
go way back. I was toying with the idea of the Monmouth cap being done on a circular knitting loom. The gauge is reasonable for one of those, as is the hem. The big catch is the decrease pattern for the crown. If it were started on such a loom it would still need to be finished on dpns to get that decrease pattern rather than a simple gather. | On Tue, 25 May 2004 00:53:09 -0400, wrote: I think I can do it..and WITHOUT circular needles, "provisional cast ons" or DPNs!!!!!! Yes I DO!!!! And...if you folks will give me about 12 days (since I am still finishing my "bee stitch" top..which will take another 2 or 3 days, since I have Bible study tomorrow)...I will SHOW you...and write out the pattern!!!!! Okay....let's say _14_ days. But I KNOW what to do. AND...I doubt seriously ..seriously!.....there were any DPNs in the Colonial days. IN fact...I think I'd just about bank on it. Those folks back then couldn't and wouldn't deal with such details. They were lucky to get any sort of knitting needle at all..and I am pretty sure "double pointed needles" were NOT part of their experience. I think that that system..the DPN... was probably invented MUCH later by people who had idle time and fiddled and played..and found it successful. But NOT in the Colonial times. I think DPNs came along...if I recall correctly...a couple of hundred years later....after the 1600's. What do ya think? You interested?? Emma Helen "Halla" Fleischer, Fantasy & Fiber Artist http://home.covad.net/~drgandalf/halla/ Balticon Art Program Coordinator http://www.balticon.org |
What do these Colonial House hats look like?
Dawn New Brunswick, Canada wrote in message ... I think I can do it..and WITHOUT circular needles, "provisional cast ons" or DPNs!!!!!! Yes I DO!!!! And...if you folks will give me about 12 days (since I am still finishing my "bee stitch" top..which will take another 2 or 3 days, since I have Bible study tomorrow)...I will SHOW you...and write out the pattern!!!!! Okay....let's say _14_ days. But I KNOW what to do. AND...I doubt seriously ..seriously!.....there were any DPNs in the Colonial days. IN fact...I think I'd just about bank on it. Those folks back then couldn't and wouldn't deal with such details. They were lucky to get any sort of knitting needle at all..and I am pretty sure "double pointed needles" were NOT part of their experience. I think that that system..the DPN... was probably invented MUCH later by people who had idle time and fiddled and played..and found it successful. But NOT in the Colonial times. I think DPNs came along...if I recall correctly...a couple of hundred years later....after the 1600's. What do ya think? You interested?? Emma |
The Monmouth caps were first knitted... in wool... and then *fulled* or
somewhat shrunken and felted, to add body and thickness/warmth to them. So they should be knit big, and then beat up a bunch in warm/hot water before wearing. There are a number of websites with information on making Monmouth Caps properly out there... one of those re-enactor things :-) (I'm allergic to wool (most wools at least), so there's little to no chance of me ever making one, but...) -Liz |
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