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Ganesh July 23rd 09 05:18 AM

Diamond Settings
 
On Jul 21, 10:49 am, William Black
wrote:
Ganesh wrote:
What are the different types of diamond settings commonly available in
the UK market?


Well.

If you get hold of the Cookson's Precious Metals catalogue, which is
sort of the industry standard, it has some 838 stone settings and 459
different rings to fit them to.

Obviously some settings won't go onto some rings.

And some of them are pretty big so you'd need a largish diamond to go
into them...

Cookson's charge £10 for their 'long form' catalogue.

Does this website http://www.cooksongold.com belong to the Cookson you
are talking about?

Abrasha July 23rd 09 05:36 PM

Diamond Settings
 
Ganesh wrote:
On Jul 21, 10:49 am, William Black
wrote:
Ganesh wrote:
What are the different types of diamond settings commonly available in
the UK market?

Well.

If you get hold of the Cookson's Precious Metals catalogue, which is
sort of the industry standard, it has some 838 stone settings and 459
different rings to fit them to.

Obviously some settings won't go onto some rings.

And some of them are pretty big so you'd need a largish diamond to go
into them...

Cookson's charge £10 for their 'long form' catalogue.

Does this website http://www.cooksongold.com belong to the Cookson you
are talking about?


No that is a cooking website, dealing with recipes based on gold.

--
Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

William Black July 23rd 09 05:38 PM

Diamond Settings
 
Ganesh wrote:
On Jul 21, 10:49 am, William Black
wrote:
Ganesh wrote:
What are the different types of diamond settings commonly available in
the UK market?

Well.

If you get hold of the Cookson's Precious Metals catalogue, which is
sort of the industry standard, it has some 838 stone settings and 459
different rings to fit them to.

Obviously some settings won't go onto some rings.

And some of them are pretty big so you'd need a largish diamond to go
into them...

Cookson's charge £10 for their 'long form' catalogue.

Does this website http://www.cooksongold.com belong to the Cookson you
are talking about?


Yes.

But it's a reasonably poor site to try and select a stone setting or a
ring from as it's reasonably hard to navigate using design as the search
parameter.


--
William Black

So I looked at the script
It was six weeks filming in the desert.
No girls, no dialogue, just guys with guns.
They said "Do you want wages or a percentage?"
It looked like a certain turkey.
When they came the second time I was ready.
I haven't had to work since...

Eli Wallach on his roles in
"The Magnificent Seven"
and "The Good the Bad and The Ugly

Peter W. Rowe[_2_] July 23rd 09 05:41 PM

Diamond Settings
 
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:36:44 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry Abrasha
wrote:


No that is a cooking website, dealing with recipes based on gold.


Ah yes. Steamed bridal jewelry with a whine and jeez sauce. A favorite of
jilted lovers everywhere...
;-)

William Black July 24th 09 12:33 AM

Diamond Settings
 
Abrasha wrote:
Ganesh wrote:
On Jul 21, 10:49 am, William Black
wrote:
Ganesh wrote:
What are the different types of diamond settings commonly available in
the UK market?
Well.

If you get hold of the Cookson's Precious Metals catalogue, which is
sort of the industry standard, it has some 838 stone settings and 459
different rings to fit them to.

Obviously some settings won't go onto some rings.

And some of them are pretty big so you'd need a largish diamond to go
into them...

Cookson's charge £10 for their 'long form' catalogue.

Does this website http://www.cooksongold.com belong to the Cookson you
are talking about?


No that is a cooking website, dealing with recipes based on gold.


Stop being horrible to the poor chap.

He's obviously out of his depth.

Admittedly the depth he's out of is at the shallow end, but that's not
really the point.

If he's from, say, India (which his name implies) and he has a retail
background there then he'll only have experience of the very
stereotypical jewellery you can buy there...

--
William Black

So I looked at the script
It was six weeks filming in the desert.
No girls, no dialogue, just guys with guns.
They said "Do you want wages or a percentage?"
It looked like a certain turkey.
When they came the second time I was ready.
I haven't had to work since...

Eli Wallach on his roles in
"The Magnificent Seven"
and "The Good the Bad and The Ugly

Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc[_2_] July 25th 09 07:43 PM

Diamond Settings
 
On Jul 23, 1:33*pm, William Black wrote:
Ganesh wrote:
What are the different types of diamond settings commonly available in
the UK market?

Stop being horrible to the poor chap.

He's obviously out of his depth.

Admittedly the depth he's out of is at the shallow end, *but that's not
really the point.

If he's from, *say, *India (which his name implies) and he has a retail
background there then he'll only have experience of the very
stereotypical jewellery you can buy there...


you can probably buy other jewelry in India too g
(but I think that's not what you were getting at).

I'm glad this newsgroup is still active.

Aloha,
Maren
(who still keeps coming back here, it's a place to learn things)

William Black July 26th 09 01:13 AM

Diamond Settings
 
Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc wrote:
On Jul 23, 1:33 pm, William Black wrote:
Ganesh wrote:
What are the different types of diamond settings commonly available in
the UK market?

Stop being horrible to the poor chap.

He's obviously out of his depth.

Admittedly the depth he's out of is at the shallow end, but that's not
really the point.

If he's from, say, India (which his name implies) and he has a retail
background there then he'll only have experience of the very
stereotypical jewellery you can buy there...


you can probably buy other jewelry in India too g
(but I think that's not what you were getting at).


I spend a lot of time in India and my experience is that the precious
metal jewellery made for internal consumption is beautifully made but
completely pedestrian and conventional in design.

There are large quantities of more fashionable jewellery (in Western
terms) available but it isn't available in the retail shops.

Even in Bombay (Mumbai), the most cosmopolitan of India's cities, you
very rarely see anything made in precious metals that isn't of
traditional design.



--
William Black

So I looked at the script
It was six weeks filming in the desert.
No girls, no dialogue, just guys with guns.
They said "Do you want wages or a percentage?"
It looked like a certain turkey.
When they came the second time I was ready.
I haven't had to work since...

Eli Wallach on his roles in
"The Magnificent Seven"
and "The Good the Bad and The Ugly

Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc[_2_] July 26th 09 05:09 PM

Diamond Settings
 
On Jul 25, 2:13*pm, William Black wrote:
Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc wrote:



On Jul 23, 1:33 pm, William Black wrote:
Ganesh wrote:
What are the different types of diamond settings commonly available in
the UK market?
Stop being horrible to the poor chap.


He's obviously out of his depth.


Admittedly the depth he's out of is at the shallow end, *but that's not
really the point.


If he's from, *say, *India (which his name implies) and he has a retail
background there then he'll only have experience of the very
stereotypical jewellery you can buy there...


you can probably buy other jewelry in India too g
(but I think that's not what you were getting at).


I spend a lot of time in India and my experience is that the precious
metal jewellery made for internal consumption is beautifully made but
completely pedestrian and conventional in design.

There are large quantities of more fashionable jewellery (in Western
terms) available but it isn't available in the retail shops.

Even in Bombay (Mumbai), *the most cosmopolitan of India's cities, *you
very rarely see anything made in precious metals that isn't of
traditional design.


Learned something new again.
Maybe it's what sells.

I've never been to India but I have a co-worker who is
from Kerala. I'll ask him - not that I know how much interest
in jewelry he (or his wife, who is also from there) has.

Thanks,
Maren

William Black July 27th 09 05:21 AM

Diamond Settings
 
Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc wrote:
On Jul 25, 2:13 pm, William Black wrote:
Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc wrote:



On Jul 23, 1:33 pm, William Black wrote:
Ganesh wrote:
What are the different types of diamond settings commonly available in
the UK market?
Stop being horrible to the poor chap.
He's obviously out of his depth.
Admittedly the depth he's out of is at the shallow end, but that's not
really the point.
If he's from, say, India (which his name implies) and he has a retail
background there then he'll only have experience of the very
stereotypical jewellery you can buy there...
you can probably buy other jewelry in India too g
(but I think that's not what you were getting at).

I spend a lot of time in India and my experience is that the precious
metal jewellery made for internal consumption is beautifully made but
completely pedestrian and conventional in design.

There are large quantities of more fashionable jewellery (in Western
terms) available but it isn't available in the retail shops.

Even in Bombay (Mumbai), the most cosmopolitan of India's cities, you
very rarely see anything made in precious metals that isn't of
traditional design.


Learned something new again.
Maybe it's what sells.

I've never been to India but I have a co-worker who is
from Kerala. I'll ask him - not that I know how much interest
in jewelry he (or his wife, who is also from there) has.


Every Indian woman I've ever met, including my wife, is very keen
indeed on all types of jewellery and every Indian woman I know has a
decent collection of jewellery.

There's no welfare system in India and sometimes there can be a lot of
unrest and trouble. It makes a certain amount of sense to have asserts
you can carry...

In India it is normal for a middle class woman to have a jeweller who
will make her precious metal jewellery for her and costume jewellery is
on sale at just about every street corner.

But, and it's a big but, the social opportunities for women to wear
Western style jewellery are limited. Younger women could, but can't
afford it, and older women tend to wear traditional dress where Western
style jewellery just disappears into the gold thread embroidered sari
or salwar kamese.


--
William Black

So I looked at the script
It was six weeks filming in the desert.
No girls, no dialogue, just guys with guns.
They said "Do you want wages or a percentage?"
It looked like a certain turkey.
When they came the second time I was ready.
I haven't had to work since...

Eli Wallach on his roles in
"The Magnificent Seven"
and "The Good the Bad and The Ugly

Ganesh July 28th 09 01:02 AM

Diamond Settings
 
On Jul 27, 9:21*am, William Black wrote:
In India it is normal for a middle class woman to have a jeweller who
will make her precious metal jewellery for her and costume jewellery is
on sale at just about every street corner.

But, *and it's a big but, *the social opportunities for women *to wear
Western style jewellery are limited. *Younger women could, *but can't
afford it, *and older women tend to wear traditional dress where Western
style jewellery just disappears into the gold thread embroidered *sari


Traditional Ornaments often symbolize various GODs and every ornament
various from place to place. If you try to research a Mangalsutra
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangalsutra) you will find it is made at
least using 1000 different types.

What are the different types of Cross available in the western world?
I have seen the way it is represented is different in different
western region as well and each place has a different signature to it.


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