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Sheellah August 6th 03 07:19 PM

Changing Kitchen Cabinet Glass
 
The problem with trying to do this, is that the glass is inserted into a
channel before the door is assembled, and then it's probably glued. It's a
shaker door style. They also have one where the glass in inside a mitered
frame. The doors are from IKEA, and they are that awful screened glass with the
squares on it. Would love to put in a better glass. If their glass doors can't
be taken apart, the other option is to buy a solid door, and route it out, but
then I would need a matching trim piece in the same wood color.

Anyone take apart an IKEA glass kitchen door, and replace the glass? Please
also e-mail me, if kind enough to respond. Thanks!

Mike Firth August 7th 03 12:16 AM

The security code requires that any glass within 40" of a lock be wired or
otherwise unbreakable. (section 1013.2) And locks on an egress door
(emergency exit in a fire) must be openable without special knowledge, i.e.
no key, no code, just a turn knob.

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"Sheellah" wrote in message
...
The problem with trying to do this, is that the glass is inserted into a
channel before the door is assembled, and then it's probably glued. It's a
shaker door style. They also have one where the glass in inside a mitered
frame. The doors are from IKEA, and they are that awful screened glass

with the
squares on it. Would love to put in a better glass. If their glass doors

can't
be taken apart, the other option is to buy a solid door, and route it out,

but
then I would need a matching trim piece in the same wood color.

Anyone take apart an IKEA glass kitchen door, and replace the glass?

Please
also e-mail me, if kind enough to respond. Thanks!




Richard Baines August 7th 03 03:23 AM

Take the doors to a cabinet shop; ask if they can route it out if you have someone
cut out the glass. New glass could be installed with clips or silicone.

Dick Baines
Rainbow Artistic Glass

Sheellah wrote:

The problem with trying to do this, is that the glass is inserted into a
channel before the door is assembled, and then it's probably glued. It's a
shaker door style. They also have one where the glass in inside a mitered
frame. The doors are from IKEA, and they are that awful screened glass with the
squares on it. Would love to put in a better glass. If their glass doors can't
be taken apart, the other option is to buy a solid door, and route it out, but
then I would need a matching trim piece in the same wood color.

Anyone take apart an IKEA glass kitchen door, and replace the glass? Please
also e-mail me, if kind enough to respond. Thanks!



Moonraker August 7th 03 04:03 AM

Look again.

I've seen lots of kitchen cabinets, and made a few panels for some of them
in my time. I have NEVER seen a piece of glass permanently installed in a
door frame. I betcha you have overlooked a trim stop, most of them are on
the inside. Maybe the seam between the stop and the frame is painted and
you just don't see how to get the glass panel out of the door.

No reputable cabinet maker would ever install glass in a door while he's
making it. Too much chance for breakage in the shop and they need to be
able to repair breakage that might occur during shipping..

"Richard Baines" wrote in message
...
Take the doors to a cabinet shop; ask if they can route it out if you have

someone
cut out the glass. New glass could be installed with clips or silicone.

Dick Baines
Rainbow Artistic Glass

Sheellah wrote:

The problem with trying to do this, is that the glass is inserted into a
channel before the door is assembled, and then it's probably glued. It's

a
shaker door style. They also have one where the glass in inside a

mitered
frame. The doors are from IKEA, and they are that awful screened glass

with the
squares on it. Would love to put in a better glass. If their glass doors

can't
be taken apart, the other option is to buy a solid door, and route it

out, but
then I would need a matching trim piece in the same wood color.

Anyone take apart an IKEA glass kitchen door, and replace the glass?

Please
also e-mail me, if kind enough to respond. Thanks!






ToddD August 7th 03 01:39 PM

in article , Richard Baines at
wrote on 8/6/03 10:23 PM:

New glass could be installed with clips or silicone.


What kind of clips are you talking about here? And where to get them?
I've been looking for an aesthetic way to make the panels easy to remove and
switch around.



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Javahut August 7th 03 02:08 PM

Go he http://www.cshardware.com/ look around, I have been buying from
them for quite a while, good stuff, great prices, and their clear clips are
great, don't break off like the cabinet clips from E Hoy, (cheaper too)


"ToddD" wrote in message
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in article , Richard Baines at


wrote on 8/6/03 10:23 PM:

New glass could be installed with clips or silicone.


What kind of clips are you talking about here? And where to get them?
I've been looking for an aesthetic way to make the panels easy to remove

and
switch around.



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Richard Baines August 8th 03 01:43 AM

We have clear plastic screw on clips that attach to the back of the door and
have a short nipple that presses against the glass to secure it.

Dick Baines

ToddD wrote:

in article , Richard Baines at
wrote on 8/6/03 10:23 PM:

New glass could be installed with clips or silicone.


What kind of clips are you talking about here? And where to get them?
I've been looking for an aesthetic way to make the panels easy to remove and
switch around.

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Gloria August 18th 03 10:41 PM

(Sheellah) wrote in message ...
I guess the glass can be broken, and removed from the channel that way.


I agree that no cabinet door should be made the way described. Even
though, I have seen one.

Do you make stained glass? If so, you could put a border around the
edge of the window, if that sytle would be ok for you. After breaking
the glass and removing the existing, you could insert the border
pieces and assemble the stained glass piece in the frame. You'd just
need to find something to support the middle pieces at the proper
height. Just another idea.

GK

Clarke Echols August 23rd 03 11:24 PM

If the glass is in a slot and the sides were assembled with the glass
in place, there are a couple of possibilities:

(1) Disassemble two corners -- espcially nifty if you can make them
diagonally opposite.

(2) Get someone with a rounter and a small bit that cuts a narrow kerf
and have them set up a straight-edge guide (or use a router table)
to remove the wood on the inside side to the depth of the notch.
This will allow you to remove the old glass. You can then install
the new glass and add standard glass retainer clips with short (1/2")
sheet-metal screws (probably #6 diameter) to keep the new glass in
place, which is what should have been done when the door was made in
the first place.

Clarke


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