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rosecatts August 10th 03 06:27 AM

My designs "borrowed"
 
It has come to my attentiion that a poster here is using my designs of
inlaid crystals as her own original design. Let it be known that I was
designing these since 1999! I hope Leigh does lay the cards on the
table and let the posters at PCC know the name of the clayer who uses
other's ideas freely as her own. Thank you Darlene for posting all
over the internet ideas that I have been selling for 4 years!

laura August 10th 03 07:24 PM


"Sjpolyclay" wrote in message
...
It has come to my attentiion that a poster here is using my designs of
inlaid crystals as her own original design. Let it be known that I was
designing these since 1999!


Hi Rosecatts!
Its very difficult for anybody to truthfully claim being the *first* to do
things with polymer clay---I've been using crystals inlaid into fairies

(they
make great eyes) for more than a decade. My friend across town makes

rhinestone
and crystal studded polymer clay pieces and has since the 1980's. Lots of
poeple come up with the same ideas at the same times, separately. That's
synchronicity.


Gosh, I pressed a swarovski bead into a glob of clay a few weeks ago, just
to see what it would look like. It was just something that was on the table
and I had a piece of clay in my hand. I do that with all sorts of objects.
I had no idea it was a 'design' or that I was 'stealing'.

Laura




Arondelle August 10th 03 10:53 PM

It has come to my attentiion that a poster here is using my
designs of inlaid crystals as her own original design. Let it
be known that I was designing these since 1999!

Hi Rosecatts! Its very difficult for anybody to truthfully claim
being the *first* to do things with polymer clay---I've been
using crystals inlaid into fairies (they make great eyes) for more
than a decade. My friend across town makes rhinestone and crystal
studded polymer clay pieces and has since the 1980's.
Lots of poeple come up with the same ideas at the same times,
separately. That's synchronicity.


Gosh, I pressed a swarovski bead into a glob of clay a few weeks
ago, just to see what it would look like. It was just something
that was on the table and I had a piece of clay in my hand. I do
that with all sorts of objects. I had no idea it was a 'design' or
that I was 'stealing'.


Dear me! I was putting rhinestones into polyclay in 1996 (or there
abouts). Does that mean that Rosecatts was "stealing" from me, too?

Or does it just mean that putting rhinestones into polyclay is a good
idea, sort of a *natural* thing to do with rhinestones and polyclay? ;-)

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Sjpolyclay August 11th 03 02:52 PM

Let it be known that I was
designing these since 1999! I


I think its very clear that many people use all sorts of inclusions--beads,
crystals, glitter, glass--even herbs and spices. And many people forget that
there are thousands of people working in the same media at the same time, who
also notice stuff like that pasta machines and garlic presses are useful, as
are rubber stamps and other art/cratf items. I know at least ten people who
independantly "discovered" pasta machines work with clay rather nicely.

As an artist, I am more interested in seeing what else might be cool with my
clay than I am in claiming the "discovery rights". (as Eddie Izzard would
say--"Do you have a flag?")
Sarajane

Sarajane's Polymer Clay Gallery
http://www.polyclay.com

view my auctions at:
http://www.polyclay.com/Collage/auction.htm


Maria August 11th 03 03:32 PM

I actually saw some beautiful glass beads (maybe fiber optic) which
looked had "little diamonds" embedded in them in this month's issue of
Bead & Button. Your right. They really sparkle!

Maria
www.stores.ebay.com/Lepoppet

rw August 11th 03 04:02 PM

As an artist, I am more interested in seeing what else might be cool with my
clay than I am in claiming the "discovery rights". (as Eddie Izzard would
say--"Do you have a flag?")
Sarajane


LOL, I like that. Who's Eddie Izzard?

Funny thing, about embedding stuff in clay.... it was one of the very first
things I did (some years ago).... had some clay and a bunch of semi-precious
gem chips, so it seemed logical to put them together! Mine came out pretty sad
looking! I love jewelry, but making pretty stuff is not exactly my forte.

Sjpolyclay August 11th 03 04:36 PM

LOL, I like that. Who's Eddie Izzard?

He'sa wonderful comedian. John Cleese called him "The funniest man in England"

He has several videos of his specials out----the "flag" line is from one called
"Dressed to Kill" and its a real scream. We hurt ourselves laughing; but it was
well worth it.
Sarajane

Sarajane's Polymer Clay Gallery
http://www.polyclay.com

view my auctions at:
http://www.polyclay.com/Collage/auction.htm


Valerie August 11th 03 08:03 PM

Also glass beads. Clear beads in black clay look like stars - everyone feel
free to use this idea. :)


Dianne
Florida


Hi Dianne! Whereabouts in Florida are you? I'm a Floridian too! ;-)

Valerie
Website: http://www.geocities.com/m2ir8/index.html



Robert Houghtaling August 12th 03 06:24 AM


LOL, I like that. Who's Eddie Izzard?


He'sa wonderful comedian. John Cleese called him "The funniest man in
England"

He has several videos of his specials out----the "flag" line is from one
called
"Dressed to Kill" and its a real scream. We hurt ourselves laughing; but it
was
well worth it.
Sarajane

I would agree with John Cleese but not limit it to England. Eddie's a
wonderful actor also. Did you see him as Chaplin in. "The Cat's Meow"? The
film about a murder on William Randolf Hearst's yacht.
Robert
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http://www.houghtalingsculpture.com
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http://www.frogart.com


E J Ralph August 12th 03 01:30 PM

On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:24:48 -0700, Robert Houghtaling
wrote:

I would agree with John Cleese but not limit it to England. Eddie's a
wonderful actor also. Did you see him as Chaplin in. "The Cat's Meow"? The
film about a murder on William Randolf Hearst's yacht.
Robert



Just to add to the Izzard conversation - I think he is briliant! I
remember first seeing a stand up show of his on TV way back in the
early ninties when I was travelling back from someplace and was stuck
in a very dubious bed and breakfast for the night! I think that was
before he was open about his cross-dressing it was that long ago!

He has done some real turkeys though - like his sit-com about cows,
that one didn't get the contract to run a second season oddly enough!

Here in the UK, recently he did a three part documentary for discovery
channel called "Mongrel Nation" all about Britain and the different
waves of people who have imigrated here over the centuries and what
they have added to our culteral mix, that was really fascinating
program, made more enjoyable with those special Izzard touches!

I didn't realise he was so well known over in the States too though!

Emma


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