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I do believe so!! Hadn't heard anything of her for years.
Gillian "animaux" wrote in message ... Holy cow! Is this the Nathalie who used to post here? If so, why am I not surprised? On 29 Jul 2003 10:43:45 -0700, (Lady Mamid) wrote: From : http://www.chia.net/mimick/ydg This is to let all know that I am no longer being employed by NDMDC.com or Nathalie Forster as per their statement: "It is our understanding that Nathalie Forster had a number of items of property belonging to other companies and/or individuals in her own possession, namely sample stitching, photos and other goods which were property of Janet M Perry, a selection of patterns from X's |
At first I thought Nathalie and her business went off in one direction and
the "www.ndmdc.com url" got sold and went off in another. From the tone of the message on the web site it implies there is a separation. However a search produced the following; Domain Name.......... ndmdc.com Creation Date........ 2001-03-17 Registration Date.... 2003-06-06 Expiry Date.......... 2005-03-17 Organisation Name.... Nathalie's Designs Mail Order and Distribution Company Organisation Address. 2 The Lawns Organisation Address. Windermere Road Organisation Address. Reading Organisation Address. RG2 7JA Organisation Address. Berkshire Organisation Address. GREAT BRITAIN (UK) It might be that the "url" ndmdc.com and "Nathalie's Designs Mail Order and Distribution Company name" are owned by one and the same person but that "NDMDC" is a registered copyright logo/name of someone completely unrelated. Time will tell. Fred http://www.stitchaway.com If you are on thin ice you might as well dance! W.I.P. Pending "Lady Mamid" wrote in message m... From : http://www.chia.net/mimick/ydg This is to let all know that I am no longer being employed by NDMDC.com or Nathalie Forster as per their statement: "It is our understanding that Nathalie Forster had a number of items of property belonging to other companies and/or individuals in her own possession, namely sample stitching, photos and other goods which were property of Janet M Perry, a selection of patterns from X's and Oh's, sample stitching that was prepared for commercial use that are owned by Bewitching Stitches, as well as a number of other unspecified goods. It is our understanding that Nathalie Forster has either returned these goods in good will, made adequate alternative arrangements to return these goods with third parties in good will, or is making adequate arrangements to return these goods to their rightful owners in the near future when financial situation permits. Where goods are still due, these will be returned before or by August 31, 2003 at the latest date. It is our understanding that Nathalie Forster expects the same courtesy for her own property in return and expects her property returned by August 31, 2003 at the latest, to herself or appointed authorised agent(s). Any person who worked for Nathalie Forster who does not comply will be reported to appropriate authorities for theft and further action may be pursued, both legal and other means." I am one of several designers and modelstitchers who have been affected by such actions by her and the companies she may or may not currently own. Until such time as I receive payment for the modelstitching I have done for either NDMDC or Nathale Forster, neither Nathalie Forster nor any company previously or currently associated with her is authorized to sell any of YDG Designs or exhibit my work. This list includes but is not limited to: the web page work I also did on a per page basis, reimbursement for payment to my modelstitchers, and payment for designs sold. Until payment arrangements can and have been made, I will not be sending anything back. If arrangements haven't been made with me by August 31st, 2003, I will consider the materials I have left in my position partial payment for my time spent working for Nathalie Forster and NDMDC and will dispose of the items as I see fit. Other distributers and resellers need to Contact Me if they wish to still distribute my designs. I am extremely disheartened by what has happened, not just to myself but to other modelstitchers and designers affected by Nathalie Forster's and NDMDC's actions and decisions. I will endeavor to warn other novice modelstitcher and designers that contracting with Nathalie Forster or NDMDC could be extremely detrimental to their carreers. Yolanda Goodwin YDG Designs Last updated :July 29th, 2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.504 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 7/24/03 |
Ok Fred - no need to squirrel any more, I'll let you out of your misery lol
.. All these sites are in fact linked . Nathalie owned (owns ?) NDMDC . Muckworld (Driving Force Software LTD) is her husbands Company for which she is a ? non-executive partner. She has now opened another company needlesnstitches to sell her needlework designs . Jan "Fred" wrote in message ... To add to my first post, I read the web site notice again and it does appear "on the surface" that the "url" ndmdc.com was sold.What I found *interesting* was the *new owner's* concerns for the welfare of the Nathalie's Designs Mail Order and Distribution Company's designers, customers and creditors, etc. Why should the new owner of the "url" care??? They got what they paid for! So I do some clicking around.g As I posted before - I looked for ndmdc.com and found the following; Domain Name.......... ndmdc.com Creation Date........ 2001-03-17 Registration Date.... 2003-06-06 Expiry Date.......... 2005-03-17 Organisation Name.... Nathalie's Designs Mail Order and Distribution Company Organisation Address. 2 The Lawns Windermere Road Organisation Address. Reading RG2 7JA Organisation Address. Berkshire GREAT BRITAIN (UK) When one lands on the ndmdc.com web site they request that violators of the NDMDC copyright are to be reported to "admin @muckworld.com". muckworld.com is a blank page however with some more clicking around I find the following; Domain Name.......... muckworld.com Creation Date........ 2000-11-26 Registration Date.... 2000-11-26 Expiry Date.......... 2004-11-26 Organisation Name.... Driving Force Software Limited Organisation Address. 2 The Lawns, Windermere Road Organisation Address. Reading RG2 7JA Organisation Address. Berkshire GREAT BRITAIN (UK) On this side of the pond selling a company asset to another party with an "identical address" would suggest a "squirreling away" of assets prior to filing for Chap. 11 by the original owners of ndmdc.com and it usually flies like a *truck*. BTW - for those that don't know - "squirreling away" is an accounting term meaning, "hiding your nuts" from creditors. The nuts normally end up cracked! g IIRC Nathalie did web sites as well as stitching designs, distribution and she used to post here quite a lot. I don't know much about her but sometime back between 1998 & 2000 I was considering her for my web site designer. Aside from her high quote I just could not get a warm fuzzy feeling about her company so I opted for the very talented Rita Valettini in Italy at http://www.ri-va.com/index2.htm I could be wrong but I'm betting that both the NDMDC web site warning and the comment at the bottom were written by the same person. Fred http://www.stitchaway.com If you are on thin ice you might as well dance! W.I.P. Pending "Lady Mamid" wrote in message m... From : http://www.chia.net/mimick/ydg This is to let all know that I am no longer being employed by NDMDC.com or Nathalie Forster as per their statement: "It is our understanding that Nathalie Forster had a number of items of property belonging to other companies and/or individuals in her own possession, namely sample stitching, photos and other goods which were property of Janet M Perry, a selection of patterns from X's and Oh's, sample stitching that was prepared for commercial use that are owned by Bewitching Stitches, as well as a number of other unspecified goods. It is our understanding that Nathalie Forster has either returned these goods in good will, made adequate alternative arrangements to return these goods with third parties in good will, or is making adequate arrangements to return these goods to their rightful owners in the near future when financial situation permits. Where goods are still due, these will be returned before or by August 31, 2003 at the latest date. It is our understanding that Nathalie Forster expects the same courtesy for her own property in return and expects her property returned by August 31, 2003 at the latest, to herself or appointed authorised agent(s). Any person who worked for Nathalie Forster who does not comply will be reported to appropriate authorities for theft and further action may be pursued, both legal and other means." I am one of several designers and modelstitchers who have been affected by such actions by her and the companies she may or may not currently own. Until such time as I receive payment for the modelstitching I have done for either NDMDC or Nathale Forster, neither Nathalie Forster nor any company previously or currently associated with her is authorized to sell any of YDG Designs or exhibit my work. This list includes but is not limited to: the web page work I also did on a per page basis, reimbursement for payment to my modelstitchers, and payment for designs sold. Until payment arrangements can and have been made, I will not be sending anything back. If arrangements haven't been made with me by August 31st, 2003, I will consider the materials I have left in my position partial payment for my time spent working for Nathalie Forster and NDMDC and will dispose of the items as I see fit. Other distributers and resellers need to Contact Me if they wish to still distribute my designs. I am extremely disheartened by what has happened, not just to myself but to other modelstitchers and designers affected by Nathalie Forster's and NDMDC's actions and decisions. I will endeavor to warn other novice modelstitcher and designers that contracting with Nathalie Forster or NDMDC could be extremely detrimental to their carreers. Yolanda Goodwin YDG Designs Last updated :July 29th, 2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.504 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 7/25/03 |
I thought she had some problems back then. She was sort of odd, and not in a
bad way, but odd none the less. I suppose I could say more, but I won't. V On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:05:38 -0400, "lisa" wrote: Yup 2 years ago I "won her contest" from her website, it was a free chart. Must be that she didn't want to send to over seas or soemthing cause I got the congratulations letter what is your address and that was it. I emailed her and posted here about it and no reply. Oh well I guess I won't buy any of her designs then although there were two that I would have. Lisa "Gillian Murray" wrote in message ink.net... I do believe so!! Hadn't heard anything of her for years. Gillian "animaux" wrote in message ... Holy cow! Is this the Nathalie who used to post here? If so, why am I not surprised? On 29 Jul 2003 10:43:45 -0700, (Lady Mamid) wrote: From : http://www.chia.net/mimick/ydg This is to let all know that I am no longer being employed by NDMDC.com or Nathalie Forster as per their statement: "It is our understanding that Nathalie Forster had a number of items of property belonging to other companies and/or individuals in her own possession, namely sample stitching, photos and other goods which were property of Janet M Perry, a selection of patterns from X's |
"Lady Mamid" wrote in message m... From : http://www.chia.net/mimick/ydg This is to let all know that I am no longer being employed by NDMDC.com or Nathalie Forster as per their statement: "It is our understanding that Nathalie Forster had a number of items of property belonging to other companies and/or individuals in her own possession, namely sample stitching, photos and other goods which were property of Janet M Perry, a selection of patterns from X's and Oh's, sample stitching that was prepared for commercial use that are owned by Bewitching Stitches, as well as a number of other unspecified goods. It is our understanding that Nathalie Forster has either returned these goods in good will, made adequate alternative arrangements to return these goods with third parties in good will, or is making adequate arrangements to return these goods to their rightful owners in the near future when financial situation permits. Where goods are still due, these will be returned before or by August 31, 2003 at the latest date. It is our understanding that Nathalie Forster expects the same courtesy for her own property in return and expects her property returned by August 31, 2003 at the latest, to herself or appointed authorised agent(s). Any person who worked for Nathalie Forster who does not comply will be reported to appropriate authorities for theft and further action may be pursued, both legal and other means." I am one of several designers and modelstitchers who have been affected by such actions by her and the companies she may or may not currently own. Until such time as I receive payment for the modelstitching I have done for either NDMDC or Nathale Forster, neither Nathalie Forster nor any company previously or currently associated with her is authorized to sell any of YDG Designs or exhibit my work. This list includes but is not limited to: the web page work I also did on a per page basis, reimbursement for payment to my modelstitchers, and payment for designs sold. Until payment arrangements can and have been made, I will not be sending anything back. If arrangements haven't been made with me by August 31st, 2003, I will consider the materials I have left in my position partial payment for my time spent working for Nathalie Forster and NDMDC and will dispose of the items as I see fit. Other distributers and resellers need to Contact Me if they wish to still distribute my designs. I am extremely disheartened by what has happened, not just to myself but to other modelstitchers and designers affected by Nathalie Forster's and NDMDC's actions and decisions. I will endeavor to warn other novice modelstitcher and designers that contracting with Nathalie Forster or NDMDC could be extremely detrimental to their carreers. Yolanda Goodwin YDG Designs Yanno what? At no time, pursuant to this, will I ever even LOOK at YDG designs. What a nasty thing to do. Maude |
I can understand your concern about YDG's response - however before judging
her post & your reaction - it might be useful to understand what Nathalie has supposedly "done" to her and other designers etc to make such a statement necessary!" Just a thought! Here's the problem I had with YDG's post... a) Nathalie doesn't post here any longer, so YDG knew that only her side of the issue would be shown. b) The post stated that all parties had until the end of Aug to return all property belonging to others. This is still a full month away. Couldn't she have waited until that deadline had passed before taking this public? I don't know the whole story, I'm not saying I do. I don't know the parties involved. The overall tone of YDG's post was nasty for nasty's sake. At least that's how I read it. Caryn Blue Wizard Designs http://hometown.aol.com/crzy4xst/index.html Updated: 7/7/03 -- now available Dragon of the Stars View WIPs at: http://community.webshots.com/user/carynlws (Caryn's UFO's) |
"Teresa Reynolds" wrote in message ... I can understand your concern about YDG's response - however before judging her post & your reaction - it might be useful to understand what Nathalie has supposedly "done" to her and other designers etc to make such a statement necessary!" Just a thought! Terry You can keep your thought. What that said was totally and completely unnecessary and completely unnecessary. I remember one time, oh, about six-seven years ago, a bunch of the folks here got on a rag about a shop. They put that poor owner into a nervous breakdown. Now, that was productive, wasn't it? I mean, with the poor woman unable to even speak she was so upset (setbacks happen to EVERYONE -- period!) she surely didn't get the things to her customers more quickly, did she? No, what was said on this group, provoked or not, put that shop out of business and even those of us who were satisfied customers lost . . . . I don't give a rat's ass what happened between these two -- it should have STAYED between them. Tere |
"Caryn" wrote in message ... I can understand your concern about YDG's response - however before judging her post & your reaction - it might be useful to understand what Nathalie has supposedly "done" to her and other designers etc to make such a statement necessary!" Just a thought! Here's the problem I had with YDG's post... a) Nathalie doesn't post here any longer, so YDG knew that only her side of the issue would be shown. b) The post stated that all parties had until the end of Aug to return all property belonging to others. This is still a full month away. Couldn't she have waited until that deadline had passed before taking this public? I don't know the whole story, I'm not saying I do. I don't know the parties involved. The overall tone of YDG's post was nasty for nasty's sake. At least that's how I read it. Me, too. Tere |
I agree with your points. I decided this is just a back-handed method
of advertising. "Poor me, take pity and look for my designs but not with this company." I trashed it the way I trash all non-entertaining, unsolicited ads. I vaguely remember the name Nathalie from long ago, but nothing else about her so she obviously didn't make any impact (good or bad) on me. Caryn wrote: Here's the problem I had with YDG's post... a) Nathalie doesn't post here any longer, so YDG knew that only her side of the issue would be shown. b) The post stated that all parties had until the end of Aug to return all property belonging to others. This is still a full month away. Couldn't she have waited until that deadline had passed before taking this public? I don't know the whole story, I'm not saying I do. I don't know the parties involved. The overall tone of YDG's post was nasty for nasty's sake. At least that's how I read it. -- Brenda Lewis WIP: J. Himsworth "I Shall Not Want" xs J & P Coats "Dancing Snoopy" latchhook |
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